Jim Webster writes

Quite. The profundity of ignorance beggars belief!

comes from the fact that her entire knowledge of the situation stems
entirely from websites, written entirely by people who have an axe to
grind and no knowledge of the situation in the real world.

But she neither reads, let alone misunderstands, even those webpages.

That's why she posts them complete and doesn't snip.

She really doesn't realise how stunningly stupid she is.

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Jim Webster writes

Quite. The profundity of ignorance beggars belief!

comes from the fact that her entire knowledge of the situation
stems
entirely from websites, written entirely by people who have an axe
to
grind and no knowledge of the situation in the real world.

But she neither reads, let alone misunderstands, even those
webpages.

That's why she posts them complete and doesn't snip.

She really doesn't realise how stunningly stupid she is.

One of Trosten's better points is he has decent understanding of
agriclture.
Most of the ones like Lotus wold starve in yard full of chickens.
They have
no concept of what is involved in agriclture. Every choice we make has
good
points and bad points. I doubt there is a single practice in
agricultue that
doesn't have a negitive impace somewhere. The poo poo the idea of
gravity
causing soil loss. Unless they spend several days rolling dirt back up
on
terrace ever 2 or 3 years they can't see it driving by at 60 miles per
hour.

The most vexing thing is their unwavering believe in the justness of
their
cause when most have made no effort at all to understand the problem.
They
listen to some scare story and disregruard every reaspected scientists
that
supports it and take the word of law breakers, bums and thugs over law
abiding folks.

Maybe we sould take up some of their methods and drop by the homes of
leadership of Green Piece abnd their contribtiers with pick handles
and
explaine the error in their ways and see if they can take it like they
dish
it out. See if Ruckus is for hire to the highest bidder.

It always annoyed me to play a game with two sets of rules one for my
side
and one for theirs. I rember the college unrest in the US in the 60's.
It
came to an abrupt end at Kent State when the students pushed to
national
gardmen too far in a corner and the National Gardsmen killed two
students.
We have't had a problem since. I am not for killing any one but if
they are
going to beat up citizens they sould not be supprized if they get the
same
treatement.

Political correctness is not someting a farmer has to toe the line on.

I think that is one reason why politicians in the UK tend to try and
brush agriculture under the carpet. Agriculture is real and reality
bites. It doesn't matter a damn what you believe or how strong your
convictions are, if it rains at the wrong time, the jobs knackered.

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Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.

so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick and
a
feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in many
feed merchants.

Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick. I see Dry Cow Feed Blocks on the same page,
but are they blocks of mineralised feed like Michael
showed us ;
http://www.martindalefeed.com/Products/BLOCKS/3307.htm
and are these given to suckler herds in the UK?


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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.

so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick
and
a
feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in
many
feed merchants.

Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick. I see Dry Cow Feed Blocks on the same page,
but are they blocks of mineralised feed like Michael
showed us ;
http://www.martindalefeed.com/Products/BLOCKS/3307.htm
and are these given to suckler herds in the UK?


I will look next time I go on line.


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Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.


so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick and

a

feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in many
feed merchants.


Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick.

A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.

I see Dry Cow Feed Blocks on the same page,
but are they blocks of mineralised feed like Michael
showed us ;

And so your claim:

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of
mineralised FEED blocks in the UK.

is based on your stupidity and inability to conduct
research. There are indeed references to mineralized
feed blocks in the UK, but you are simply too stupid
and dishonest to find them.

http://www.martindalefeed.com/Products/BLOCKS/3307.htm
and are these given to suckler herds in the UK?


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I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in
many
feed merchants.

Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick. I see Dry Cow Feed Blocks on the same page,
but are they blocks of mineralised feed like Michael
showed us ;
http://www.martindalefeed.com/Products/BLOCKS/3307.htm
and are these given to suckler herds in the UK?

some suckler cows in the UK will have access to some thing similar. (to
save people wasting time going on line, it is a US firm producing for
their market. The ingredients are
INGREDIENTS
Defluorinated phosphate, salt, grain products, cane molasses, magnesium
oxide, vegetable oil, ferrous oxide, manganese sulfate, calcium
carbonate, zinc sulfate, sodium selenite, ferrous sulfate, potassium
chloride, ethylenediamine dihydriodide, cobalt carbonate)

I got a thing though the post this morning from Pye farm feeds selling
something similar, but they call theirs buckets. This is because they
pour the mix into plastic bucket rather than a mould. It means you can
use a higher proportion of molasses.
These products are basically grain and molasses based, although some
will contain a protein source as well. Depending on what the block is
wanted for it will contain more or less of various minerals.
Those for out wintering beef cows might well contain more calcium, those
fed at calving could well contain more magnesium. Calcium:Phosphorus
ration will vary as well.

As I said some beef cows in the UK will have access to that sort of
thing, others might get a compound feed instead, others a straight such
as maizs gluten, others might get nothing but silage or hay. It will
depend entirely on how the animal is wintered, the sort of condition it
was in prior to housing (or prior to commencing feeding).

Blocks is just one more possibility in the ration. I know people who
have used them for rearing dairy heifers, and there are blocks available
formulated for dry cows, or even for use in the milking parlour when
animals are on complete diet regimes.



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"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'

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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.


so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick and

a

feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in many
feed merchants.


Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick.

A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.

Not in my part of the world. A lick is a natual salt deposit.

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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.



so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick and

a


feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in many
feed merchants.


Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick.

A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.


Not in my part of the world. A lick is a natual salt deposit.

Not if it's being sold by a commercial company, you doofus.

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You need a hobby. Try drink and women.

tsk tsk, temper temper,

He has a point, jim.



so in your own words what is the difference between a salt lick and

a


feed block.

Try actually addressing my points first, jim.

I can't find a SINGLE reference to the use of mineralised
FEED blocks in the UK.

now that's tough because I've seen them stacked up to the roof in many
feed merchants.


Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick.

A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.


Not in my part of the world. A lick is a natual salt deposit.

Not if it's being sold by a commercial company, you doofus.

I can by salt, salt blocks, minerals mineral blocks, protien blocks with
minerals added, mollases with minerals added, and feed wiht minerals added
buy I can't buy salt licks a the store on the the real estate agent.

A salt lick is a place not a thing here.

Gordon

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Someone was thoughtful enough to find a supplier of
mineralised supplementary feed licks for cattle
http://www.ccfarmers.co.uk/feed.asp , but that's still
a lick.

A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.

Not in my part of the world. A lick is a natual salt deposit.

that is one problem with using websites without basic knowledge. Too
many terms mean different things in different countries.


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


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A lick and a block are the same thing, you ignoramus.


Not in my part of the world. A lick is a natual salt deposit.

Not if it's being sold by a commercial company, you doofus.

in the UK a lick will tend to be salt based, with added minerals

a feed block will tend to be molasses and grain based with added
minerals.

yet there will inevitably be exceptions to this rule and some companies
will call their products "buckets" or "Rockies" or other terms of their
own. This isn't a problem as like the Texan company mentioned earlier,
they will include a list of most of the ingredients.

But do not try to use names used in one country in another, as they will
not necessarily be the same. Gordon is from the USA where they may speak
English but only after a fashion, and call things differently. This is
why people like Lotus who don't know anything meaningful about
agriculture in the real world can make themselves look complete idiots
when they quote US websites in a UK context or vice-versa.


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'

Gordon Couger writes

A salt lick is a place not a thing here.

Consider jim's rainfall.

Then consider how long salt would last close to the surface.

The only salt lick (place) he is likely to find is called 'the sea'.

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A salt lick is a place not a thing here.

Consider jim's rainfall.

Then consider how long salt would last close to the surface.

The only salt lick (place) he is likely to find is called 'the sea'.

at least that is handy.


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"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


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The only salt lick (place) he is likely to find is called 'the sea'.

at least that is handy.

Not for me.

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The only salt lick (place) he is likely to find is called 'the
sea'.

at least that is handy.

Not for me.

don't worry, with global warming it will get nearer :-))


--
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"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


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