On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster"
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Brad Guth wrote in message
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OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus?

just down Crellin Street, past the chippie.

Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then boy you're
on your own.

--
Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net
"People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever
heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96

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On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster"

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Brad Guth wrote in message
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OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus?

just down Crellin Street, past the chippie.

Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then
boy you're
on your own.

peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've
broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at
relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might just
be able to spot reality.


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:50:33 -0000, "Jim Webster"
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster"

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Brad Guth wrote in message
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OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus?

just down Crellin Street, past the chippie.

Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then
boy you're
on your own.

peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've
broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at
relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might just
be able to spot reality.

Actually, mine was a lyric from Bruce Springsteen's "Blinded by the Light".

"Madmen, drummers, bummers, and Indians in the summer..."

--
Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net
"People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever
heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96

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On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:50:33 -0000, "Jim Webster"

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Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s"
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster"

wrote:


Brad Guth wrote in message
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OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus?

just down Crellin Street, past the chippie.

Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and
then
boy you're
on your own.

peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've
broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at
relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might
just
be able to spot reality.

Actually, mine was a lyric from Bruce Springsteen's "Blinded by the
Light".

"Madmen, drummers, bummers, and Indians in the summer..."

sorry, I put it badly, I was describing guth rather than yourself, and
it did seem that the instructions to finding neverland were almost too
mundane for him


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'


--
Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net
"People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever
heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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I'm good at errors as well as at replacement errors

No kidding.

What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in this
group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific criticism or
request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with
invective or by simply changing the subject entirely.

RM

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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I have lots to say;

In further jest, in deed I do, as well as often apply satire and, I'm
not even all that good at it.

True enough.

As for being the village idiot, thereby not an astronomer (Hell, I
don't even know which way is up),

Probably also true.

I always thought that our moon
affected or at least had an influence upon Earth's weather, tides and
even did a number on various tectonic issues. Seems I recall that
aligning especially large gravitational pulls is a definite no-no
unless you actually wanted greater tides and such as Earth's core and
platetonics being manipulated. Seems that of something that's roughly
100 times the mass of our moon and, as such being situated (unlike our
moon) for weeks in nearly one accumulative specific direction of pull,
that was also aligned with the sun, that this would have offered some
influence, especially when all 4 bodies were in alignment.

It's been repeatedly pointed out to you that you are either ignoring or
unaware of the inverse square law. You have (typically) never bothered to
respond to this criticism. Why?

Good thing I was entirely dead wrong about all that gravity stuff

You were surprised?

RM

Oz wrote in message
...
Ron Miller writes

What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in
this
group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific
criticism or
request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with
invective or by simply changing the subject entirely.

It's called 'trying to conceal ignorance'.

I just wish he would make a better job of it



--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'

Jim Webster writes
Oz wrote in message
...
Ron Miller writes

What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in
this
group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific
criticism or
request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with
invective or by simply changing the subject entirely.

It's called 'trying to conceal ignorance'.

I just wish he would make a better job of it

Well of course he would, if he were not so ignorant.

--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted.

Brad Guth wrote:
I have lots to say;

And no matter how often you say it, you still have nothing
worthwhile to say. And all the insults destroy the value of even
*reading* you tripe. Except of course for purely humorously reasons.
--
Mike
__________________________________________________ ______
"Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often. Ski hard.
Spend *lots* of money. Then leave as quickly as you can.

Gordon Couger writes

"When I stayed in England I was amazed at the high cost of food. Meat was
two to three times the price I was used to paying in the Safeway. When
these English people stayed with me in Washington D.C. they couldn't
believe the amount of meat in the local super-market and how cheap it was.
I was afraid they were going to OD on steak before they went home."

As I recall when we worked out the price to feed a beef your selling price
wasn't a great deal different than mine. Where did de money go?

We have these extremely efficient corporations that sell food in the UK.
They seem to require about a 100% markup on meat to make what they claim
is a paltry living. They are called 'supermarkets'.

To give the lowest cost to their consumers they ensure that all those
below them in the supply chain trade at cost.

Apparently it's something to do with a 'margin' where you buy at cost
and sell as high as the market will bear. This is (according to their
many adverts) done entirely altruistically on behalf of their well
respected and much loved 'consumers'.

Since nobody ever shops outside their local supermarket they have no
idea of the real price of anything. Apparently this is called a
'captive' market which of course allows lower prices for the
'consumers'. Doesn't it?

Must do, it's what they keep telling us ....

--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted.

Gordon Couger wrote in message
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Jim,

From a discussion on AgBioview:

"When I stayed in England I was amazed at the high cost of food. Meat
was
two to three times the price I was used to paying in the Safeway. When
these English people stayed with me in Washington D.C. they couldn't
believe the amount of meat in the local super-market and how cheap it
was.
I was afraid they were going to OD on steak before they went home."

As I recall when we worked out the price to feed a beef your selling
price
wasn't a great deal different than mine. Where did de money go?

Gordon

supermarkets buy cheap and sell dear. They drive down the costs and jack
up the margins. That is what impressed me about US cutting plants etc,
they can pay more for the meat at the farm gate yet still get it to the
consumer at a lower price.

Must admit our lads who went to South Dakota were not impressed with the
quality of the beef, but would be used to grass fed. One commented that
if he did move, he would stick his own bullock in the freezer after
rearing it his way. I expect American dinner guests at his house would
find it rather strong tasting and probably not tender/juicy enough for
them. Such is personal taste.


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'

Gordon Couger wrote in message
news
There is no question that that you dance with the one that brung you
on
taste. It's like me and fresh green beans. I like the ones out of the
can
better because that's what I am used to. My dad's just the opposite.
He
likes the home canned or fresh the best.

I don't like grass fats beef at all. Both my wife's dad and my dad an
I ran
feed lots and we like a really fat calf. Her dad would take them to
1,200 or
1,300 pounds shooting for high prime. We were aiming for high choice
at a
later market when people were getting more health conscious.

personal taste is very important in this


I expect that your rules and regulations transfer in to real costs in
the
slaughter house. Seems I remember you have wash them and shave their
bellies
and a good deal more.

try doing that to a bullock or young bull while he is alive. Not
actually shave (as a vet might do before operating) but clip right out
so they are spotless.


Possibly even removing the major nerves such as the
sciatic nerve from the hind quarter.

The spinal cord, head and various offals such as thymus etc have to be
discarded.



I am involved with helping people find microscopes around the world
and I
find the folks from the UK and EU are not nearly as free and easy
dealing as
I am used too.

I can believe that


I will see a very good friend that has been living just outside of
London
for the last 30 years day after tomorrow. I has been 15 years or so
since I
saw him it is always intersting to get his prospective. He is an
independent
reservoir geologist for the North Sea. He company wanted to move his
family
to Houston, Texas and send him to Siberia. He retired and went to work
for
himself. Siberia is not so bad but living in Houston, no way He
would have
to pay US taxes.

Jim, that leaves you a healthy room for profit in selling to your
neighbors
and still save them a nice sum. I can't do that here. I have to
produce a
lot better quality than they can get in the store and sell it for the
same
as store price and I can't make that work because I can get the feed
conversion that the big lots do because I don't have their feed
processing
machinery. I learned that lesson 35 years ago.

problem is very few people in the UK have all that much freezer room.
Remember that generaly their houses are smaller than in the US. It is
easy enough for me to undercut supermarkets but an awful lot of people
are living hand to mouth and find £100 bad to find.
We aren't as bad as some areas but some couples are paying interest on a
mortgage of over 5 times their joint annual incomes. (I have seen the
figure 7 times joint income mentioned!) God alone knows what will happen
when interest rates go up.


--
Jim Webster

"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'



Gordon

This is great, as so many of the king's men are gathered right here.

Somehow the opportunity to do anything for humanity, other then flying
big ass airplanes into tall buildings, is over your head or in your
pants.

For your entertainment, I've introduced a few new pages:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/thermoenergy.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/radio-not.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/magic-truth.htm

and lots more updates.

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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This is great, as so many of the king's men are gathered right here.

Somehow the opportunity to do anything for humanity, other then flying
big ass airplanes into tall buildings, is over your head or in your
pants.

....huh?

For your entertainment, I've introduced a few new pages:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/thermoenergy.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/radio-not.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/magic-truth.htm

and lots more updates.

Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS

You must be related to Immanuel Velikovsky...

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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This is great, as so many of the king's men are gathered right here.

Somehow the opportunity to do anything for humanity, other then flying
big ass airplanes into tall buildings, is over your head or in your
pants.

Tell us, please, exactly what you are doing for humanity--other than
providing all of us a lot of laughs?

RM