Some of you might remember that my boss bought a cutting from my Aloha
that I had donated to the Rose Society. He and his SO planted it in a
large pot, with the intention of making it a patio climber.

The first year, they got a sum total of about 1 open bloom. The rest
of the blooms totally balled. This was the entire season. Then, in the
fall, they moved and took the plant with them.

The second year, this spring, they got a decent first flush but it's
been ball city for the rest of the year. When I took a photo of my
Belami into work for his consideration (with a picture of the new bed
with the mounds just 6 weeks prior, which he said was TOTALLY amazing
- both pics are in the gallery that I list below), he said, "Oh yeah,
this is my Aloha". He then handed me a large marble-sized, green
vegetative centered, ball bearing of a bloom.

Last year, he thought it was thrips, but he hasn't been able to detect
any thrips at all (even last year it was just a theory, not a
confirmed sighting).

MIchelle, Allen's girlfriend, is the rose gardener of the pair and an
accomplished one as well. Allen is more of a raised bed/vegetable
gardener with a minor in orchids. But he knows his way around roses
because of Michelle's interest and skill level (she has those little
signs in front of her roses g).

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys think that it might be as simple
as Aloha not liking to be a pot plant. It's probably not the climate,
as I've had very little problem with balling on my plant, even
accounting for the tons of rain that we have received.

I'm pretty sure that they've done the proper feeding and all that. I'm
also sure that they're savvy enough to give the plant the light it
needs as well. They spray with the appropriate chemicals and all that.

Could this be a simple pot issue? Anyone have any experience in this
area?

BTW, the further into the season I get, the more I love Baby Love. It
just keeps on blooming and growing and retaining leaves and a bushy
shape all the way to he ground. Blackspot doesn't seem to affect it
except on a very minor level I've only had about a week where there
weren't at least 20 or 30 blooms (about 3 weeks ago).

Here is the latest shot, followed by a shot of the baby right after
planting last year.

http://www.pbase.com/image/19899228

http://www2.pbase.com/image/19899145

The fence is a 4 foot fence, hence, the bush is now 4 feet tall.

In the second shot, look in the black box to see the plant a month or
so after the planting last year.

If you look past the fence, you can see the 3 "Europeanas" in the
little square bed, none of which ended up being Europeanas at all. One
was a yellow floribunda, one a very plain looking pink bloomed thing,
and the other, the white floribundaesque that I have posted before
(it's the "unknown white thing" in the gallery). The yellow one has
been moved, the other two get moved later this year.

For those of you who have been worried about my Ingrid Bergman since I
moved it, there's a new pic in that gallery. Just click the roses link
above the pic. I tossed in another couple of shots of other stuff as
well...

In article , dave weil
wrote:

Some of you might remember that my boss bought a cutting from my Aloha
that I had donated to the Rose Society. He and his SO planted it in a
large pot, with the intention of making it a patio climber.

The first year, they got a sum total of about 1 open bloom. The rest
of the blooms totally balled. This was the entire season. Then, in the
fall, they moved and took the plant with them.

The second year, this spring, they got a decent first flush but it's
been ball city for the rest of the year. When I took a photo of my
Belami into work for his consideration (with a picture of the new bed
with the mounds just 6 weeks prior, which he said was TOTALLY amazing
- both pics are in the gallery that I list below), he said, "Oh yeah,
this is my Aloha". He then handed me a large marble-sized, green
vegetative centered, ball bearing of a bloom.

Last year, he thought it was thrips, but he hasn't been able to detect
any thrips at all (even last year it was just a theory, not a
confirmed sighting).

MIchelle, Allen's girlfriend, is the rose gardener of the pair and an
accomplished one as well. Allen is more of a raised bed/vegetable
gardener with a minor in orchids. But he knows his way around roses
because of Michelle's interest and skill level (she has those little
signs in front of her roses g).

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys think that it might be as simple
as Aloha not liking to be a pot plant. It's probably not the climate,
as I've had very little problem with balling on my plant, even
accounting for the tons of rain that we have received.

I'm pretty sure that they've done the proper feeding and all that. I'm
also sure that they're savvy enough to give the plant the light it
needs as well. They spray with the appropriate chemicals and all that.

Could this be a simple pot issue? Anyone have any experience in this
area?

Mine is OR, in a pot. It doesn't ball but it does have problems
producing good flowers on the small plant. I've decided to just give
it some time to put on green. It is pretty hard to have a pot large
enough for a climber. It needs lots of feeder roots, and few pots are
large enough. Climbers need ground. And some need a full year in the
ground before they'll even flower more than once. Find out if they have
it in a 15 gallon pot and

Balling could be something as simple as the lawn sprinklers in their
yard or some other overhead watering.

BTW, the further into the season I get, the more I love Baby Love. It
just keeps on blooming and growing and retaining leaves and a bushy
shape all the way to he ground. Blackspot doesn't seem to affect it
except on a very minor level I've only had about a week where there
weren't at least 20 or 30 blooms (about 3 weeks ago).

Here is the latest shot, followed by a shot of the baby right after
planting last year.

http://www.pbase.com/image/19899228

http://www2.pbase.com/image/19899145

The fence is a 4 foot fence, hence, the bush is now 4 feet tall.

Great little rose in your garden. Does it want to climb or is is
shrubby? And does it really smell like licorice? I can never have too
many clean yellow roses. I'm working on Ralph Moore's Sunshine Sally,
which is pretty cute but not as dark yellow as Baby Love. Thanks for
the lead.

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:29:37 -0700, Cass
wrote:

In article , dave weil
wrote:

Some of you might remember that my boss bought a cutting from my Aloha
that I had donated to the Rose Society. He and his SO planted it in a
large pot, with the intention of making it a patio climber.

The first year, they got a sum total of about 1 open bloom. The rest
of the blooms totally balled. This was the entire season. Then, in the
fall, they moved and took the plant with them.

The second year, this spring, they got a decent first flush but it's
been ball city for the rest of the year. When I took a photo of my
Belami into work for his consideration (with a picture of the new bed
with the mounds just 6 weeks prior, which he said was TOTALLY amazing
- both pics are in the gallery that I list below), he said, "Oh yeah,
this is my Aloha". He then handed me a large marble-sized, green
vegetative centered, ball bearing of a bloom.

Last year, he thought it was thrips, but he hasn't been able to detect
any thrips at all (even last year it was just a theory, not a
confirmed sighting).

MIchelle, Allen's girlfriend, is the rose gardener of the pair and an
accomplished one as well. Allen is more of a raised bed/vegetable
gardener with a minor in orchids. But he knows his way around roses
because of Michelle's interest and skill level (she has those little
signs in front of her roses g).

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys think that it might be as simple
as Aloha not liking to be a pot plant. It's probably not the climate,
as I've had very little problem with balling on my plant, even
accounting for the tons of rain that we have received.

I'm pretty sure that they've done the proper feeding and all that. I'm
also sure that they're savvy enough to give the plant the light it
needs as well. They spray with the appropriate chemicals and all that.

Could this be a simple pot issue? Anyone have any experience in this
area?

Mine is OR, in a pot. It doesn't ball but it does have problems
producing good flowers on the small plant. I've decided to just give
it some time to put on green. It is pretty hard to have a pot large
enough for a climber. It needs lots of feeder roots, and few pots are
large enough. Climbers need ground. And some need a full year in the
ground before they'll even flower more than once. Find out if they have
it in a 15 gallon pot and

Balling could be something as simple as the lawn sprinklers in their
yard or some other overhead watering.

I don't think this is it.

I think, as you seem to, that it is the pot.

And that's what they think as well. They're going to plant it in the
ground in the fall, according to Allen.

BTW, the further into the season I get, the more I love Baby Love. It
just keeps on blooming and growing and retaining leaves and a bushy
shape all the way to he ground. Blackspot doesn't seem to affect it
except on a very minor level I've only had about a week where there
weren't at least 20 or 30 blooms (about 3 weeks ago).

Here is the latest shot, followed by a shot of the baby right after
planting last year.

http://www.pbase.com/image/19899228

http://www2.pbase.com/image/19899145

The fence is a 4 foot fence, hence, the bush is now 4 feet tall.

Great little rose in your garden. Does it want to climb or is is
shrubby?

Definitely a self-supporting shrub that keeps it's leaves all the way
o the ground. I know it looks a bit like a climer there, but it's not.
It's sort of that same shape all the way around, if you catch my
drift. Make a great plant for a corner.

And does it really smell like licorice?

You know, I've never detected all that much fragrance from it. The
blooms are soooo small, that you have to get your nose right up to one
of them to smell much of anything (but there *is* a scent, that's for
sure). There's isn't a big cumulative effect. I know I've detected a
scent. but I don't remember the character of the scent. I'll check
tomorrow and get back to you.

I can never have too
many clean yellow roses. I'm working on Ralph Moore's Sunshine Sally,
which is pretty cute but not as dark yellow as Baby Love. Thanks for
the lead.

My pleasure! This is a clean one, indeed. As soon as you deadhead one
bloom, you get two more.

The beetles seem to like it as well. Probably think of it as an
appetizer (Aloha is the main entree in my yard).

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:29:37 -0700, Cass
wrote about Baby Love:

Great little rose in your garden. Does it want to climb or is is
shrubby? And does it really smell like licorice?

No. Not in the least. At least, not to my nose. It's a little sweet,
but not in a licorice sense.

And I'm in the food business and I am quite familiar with all of the
various licorice scents, from star anise to tarragon to fennel, as
well as things like Ouzo and Sambuca (the latter being used on our
saganaki appetizer, and the former spices and herbs being used in at
least several of our dishes at any given time).

Licorice doesn't come to mind at all...