"robv60" wrote in message
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Mine isnt showing any signs of clearing after about 4 1/2 days of
running. I have an 18 watt turbo twist 6x flowing at 850GPH in a 1750
gallon pond that gets full sun for about 6 hours a day. The quilt
batting in the filter has been gunked up with some brownish/gray
muck(dead algae?) the last two days though. So maybe its working, just
not working wellt enough to keep up with the algae's rate of growth.
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I'm not sure if this was recommend yet or not - but if you see no changes in
another week you may want to buy test kits for Nitrogen and Phosphorus and
see if you have an unusual amount in your pond. Certain times of the year
our water contains a lot of nitrogen, probably from farms in the area. Any
nitrogen or phos' that enters my ponds and pools would be sucked right up by
the plants.

Right now my fry pools are clearing of "green water" as the fry are eating
regular fish food and no longer need this type of water. I stopped adding
the 10-10-10 last week. Can you imagine - I had to add fertilizer to get
the pea-soup needed by the fry!
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Good suggestion, I did put some small chunks of evergreen fertilizer
spikes in my lily pots just before the snapping turtle decided they
needed to go. Three potted lillies, I put 1, 1/2" sized chunk in each
pot. The pond had started to get a little cloudy and I put a little
0-0-22 in for my hyacinth, the pond was greening up sverely the very
next day and has been green ever since. This has been probably at LEAST
a month ago though.

"robv60" wrote in message
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Good suggestion, I did put some small chunks of evergreen fertilizer
spikes in my lily pots just before the snapping turtle decided they
needed to go.

$$ I use Jobe's Rose Spikes and have seen no greening up of the water. They
dissolve slowly....

Three potted lillies, I put 1, 1/2" sized chunk in each
pot. The pond had started to get a little cloudy and I put a little
0-0-22 in for my hyacinth, the pond was greening up sverely the very
next day and has been green ever since. This has been probably at LEAST
a month ago though.

$$ Let us know what your N-P is....... I don't even buy the test kits
anymore. Also make sure you check the water as it leaves your tap.
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How do i test for N-P(&K)? Test kits for that?

"robv60" wrote in message
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How do i test for N-P(&K)? Test kits for that?
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Ask for the kits that check the amount of nitrates and phosphates in your
water. Make sure you get the kits for freshwater. I'm positive K is not
your problem.
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Rob,

Try to be patient, and I recommend that you do not turn down you pump any more. A pond over 1000 gallons needs to be turned over at least once every 2 hours- more if you have a high fish load. What type of filtration system do you have? I would use the diverter valve and pump some to the UV and the rest to a filter system until your falls are fixed. I am assuming your falls are part of your filtration system- yes? If you are relying on quilt batting only to get the dead algae then I think you need more. Let us know more about your filter so we can help you more.

Is this also a fish pond?

I have fish in it, only 8, 3" goldfish. In order to filter the dead
algae the UV would produce I set up a temporary filter thats basically
a 5 gallon bucket stuffed with quilt batting, I have not HAD to clean
it out yet. I have cleaned it, but it was still flowing water through
it so....It did have some brownish/gray muck stuck to it, Im assuming
this was dead algae.

On 7 Jun 2005 19:38:56 -0700, "robv60" wrote:

How do i test for N-P(&K)? Test kits for that?

Usually we don't test for those. We look at Ammonia, Nitrite, pH & KH and
then Nitrate (which, btw, the test kits we use are not sensitive enough to
read in a green pond because algae is using the majority of it up.). ~ jan

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

Would a water change help or hurt?

"robv60" wrote in message
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I have fish in it, only 8, 3" goldfish. In order to filter the dead
algae the UV would produce I set up a temporary filter thats basically
a 5 gallon bucket stuffed with quilt batting, I have not HAD to clean
it out yet. I have cleaned it, but it was still flowing water through
it so....It did have some brownish/gray muck stuck to it, Im assuming
this was dead algae.
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When I use quilt batting to help speed a algae bloom the batting is clogged
in a few hours and is almost always green. Do you have a lot of mulm on the
bottom of your pond? Perhaps from an overturned plant pot or leaves from
last fall? Again, N-P may be coming in with your water, when you top up
your pond. We get a report from our water company telling us what these
measurements are (and more). But there are test kits for them.
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before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
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On 9 Jun 2005 18:02:27 -0700, "robv60" wrote:

Would a water change help or hurt?

Small water changes are always a good thing. No more than 20%. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

It would help- like Jan said. I think you need more mechanical filtration and bio-filtration. Do a partial water change- clean any gunk off the bottom, get or make a filter , be it a bog filter, veggie filter, skippy filter- you need more filtration, especially with a turtle. Trust me on this. Then do weekly or bi-weekly partial water changes. Good luck Rob. Happy ponding.

I wouldnt say there is alot of stuff on the bottom of the pond. We
completely cleaned the pond out, drained, washed refilled, the works
around April 20th. I expected to get an algage bloom after doing this,
but I also thought a UV would clear it up faster than this. I did have
a couple of small pots turn over a while back but nothing major. The
tutle is gone, we relocated it last week, no more turtle turds. Ill do
a water change this weekend on both ponds and see if it help any.
Should I add de-chlor' if Im only doing a 10% change?

"robv60" wrote in message
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I wouldnt say there is alot of stuff on the bottom of the pond. We
completely cleaned the pond out, drained, washed refilled, the works
around April 20th. I expected to get an algage bloom after doing this,
but I also thought a UV would clear it up faster than this. I did have
a couple of small pots turn over a while back but nothing major. The
tutle is gone, we relocated it last week, no more turtle turds. Ill do
a water change this weekend on both ponds and see if it help any.
Should I add de-chlor' if Im only doing a 10% change?
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I don't, but then we have very little chlorine in our water supply. I also
use a nursery type spray head on my hose to degass the water as it leaves
the hose and sprays across the water. If you're not sure - better to be
safe than sorry, use the dechlorinator.
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before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
Do not feed the trolls.
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Some say that the dechlor is not needed for small water changes of 10% or
less, since there is plenty of stuff to neutralize the chlorine fairly
quickly, but I always use dechlor.
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"robv60" wrote in message
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I wouldnt say there is alot of stuff on the bottom of the pond. We
completely cleaned the pond out, drained, washed refilled, the works
around April 20th. I expected to get an algage bloom after doing this,
but I also thought a UV would clear it up faster than this. I did have
a couple of small pots turn over a while back but nothing major. The
tutle is gone, we relocated it last week, no more turtle turds. Ill do
a water change this weekend on both ponds and see if it help any.
Should I add de-chlor' if Im only doing a 10% change?