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long-time rec.ponders: hose filter to remove ammonia
I remember years ago, someone posted plans for a filter that fit on the
end of a garden hose to remove chlorine and/or ammonia as you fill your pond. Does anyone remeber that and still know how to make one, or remeber some keywords for searching? I tried running the hose through a mesh bag filled w/zeolite and charcoal sitting in the middle of a Leerio planter, which would then run over into the pond. The planter was sitting on my plant shelf, so as not to lose any water. It didn't do a bit of good. The idea was to run the water through the filter material and then have it pool up so as to increase exposure time to the charcoal and zeolite, before it ran into the pond. I know that maybe the problem was that I don't have a good understanding of how that product works. I never had to deal with this before. |
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Hi Ann,
Long time since I've been here! Hadn't you moved away from Houston? Anyway, it might have been my post? When I had city water with chlorimine in it, I used to attach a water filter to the end of my garden hose and just let it trickle through the filter to add water. Not the cheapest solution, but I hated adding chemicals and having to guess at how much to chemical to add unless I was willing to measure how many gallons I had added, etc. Here is a link to a similar filter: http://tinyurl.com/65e5h Wendy in N. CA. Ann in Houston wrote: I remember years ago, someone posted plans for a filter that fit on the end of a garden hose to remove chlorine and/or ammonia as you fill your pond. Does anyone remeber that and still know how to make one, or remeber some keywords for searching? I tried running the hose through a mesh bag filled w/zeolite and charcoal sitting in the middle of a Leerio planter, which would then run over into the pond. The planter was sitting on my plant shelf, so as not to lose any water. It didn't do a bit of good. The idea was to run the water through the filter material and then have it pool up so as to increase exposure time to the charcoal and zeolite, before it ran into the pond. I know that maybe the problem was that I don't have a good understanding of how that product works. I never had to deal with this before. |
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No, Wendy, I didn't move, I just went through a ponding downturn for a
bit where my new (at the time) pond was no fun to write about due to several problems that I couldn't get under control. I went to the address you gave me. I didn't see the filter, but I'll go try again. I'll let you know if I can't find it. Do you think it woud work to just remove ammonia? I don't have chlorrine. |
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Chuck Rush made one out of an under the sink
filter. You can put adapters on the top of it to attach to a garden hose. The replaceable filter should be changed once a year. Let me see if I can pull up his page address from google... http://www.pondrushes.net/ and the filter is here Not sure what all it would work on but the unit that you buy at the store would say what it filters out. When I add water I use the filter and I let it go out very slowly and find a rock to run it over (just because I'm sure, and I have, will forget it is running...) so far, knock wood, I haven't had an incident with chlorine poisoning. Let us know if you build one and how it works! kathy :-) |
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Another option is just having big plastic of buckets filled with tap
water and letting it sit for a few days. This naturally eliminates the chlorine. Ann in Houston wrote: I remember years ago, someone posted plans for a filter that fit on the end of a garden hose to remove chlorine and/or ammonia as you fill your pond. Does anyone remeber that and still know how to make one, or remeber some keywords for searching? I tried running the hose through a mesh bag filled w/zeolite and charcoal sitting in the middle of a Leerio planter, which would then run over into the pond. The planter was sitting on my plant shelf, so as not to lose any water. It didn't do a bit of good. The idea was to run the water through the filter material and then have it pool up so as to increase exposure time to the charcoal and zeolite, before it ran into the pond. I know that maybe the problem was that I don't have a good understanding of how that product works. I never had to deal with this before. |
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"Ann in Houston" wrote in message oups.com... I remember years ago, someone posted plans for a filter that fit on the end of a garden hose to remove chlorine and/or ammonia as you fill your pond. Does anyone remeber that and still know how to make one, or remeber some keywords for searching? I tried running the hose through a mesh bag filled w/zeolite and charcoal sitting in the middle of a Leerio planter, which would then run over into the pond. The planter was sitting on my plant shelf, so as not to lose any water. It didn't do a bit of good. The idea was to run the water through the filter material and then have it pool up so as to increase exposure time to the charcoal and zeolite, before it ran into the pond. I know that maybe the problem was that I don't have a good understanding of how that product works. I never had to deal with this before. Since it will be difficult to monitor, and over time the filter could become saturated, I suggest you instead treat water manually. I don't like auto anything when it comes to my critters, but that's just my 2 cents. There are plenty of treatment products on the market, http://ihmp.net/@/wu. -- BV Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com http://www.iheartmypond.com Help IHeartMyPond.com, by doing all of your eBay shopping via our eBay Affiliate Link: http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-1609574-10357516. It doesn't cost you anything, but an extra click! |
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"kathy" wrote in message
ups.com... Chuck Rush made one out of an under the sink filter. You can put adapters on the top of it to attach to a garden hose. The replaceable filter should be changed once a year. Let me see if I can pull up his page address from google... http://www.pondrushes.net/ and the filter is here Not sure what all it would work on but the unit that you buy at the store would say what it filters out. When I add water I use the filter and I let it go out very slowly and find a rock to run it over (just because I'm sure, and I have, will forget it is running...) so far, knock wood, I haven't had an incident with chlorine poisoning. Let us know if you build one and how it works! kathy :-) I also fill up my pond by adding water VERY slowly. I actually set the hose attachment to mist and set this over the pond so that the mist 'rains' into the pond and flows in over rocks and plants. I can also leave for some time without the risk of overflow occurring in a short time while my attention was elsewhere . Yes it does take a couple of hours to top off my pond that is down 1/2 foot but I don't see that as a problem.. I have been doing this for years with no trouble and we live on Long Island where I'm fairly confident they put nasty stuff in the water. |
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DKat wrote:
"kathy" wrote in message oups.com... Chuck Rush made one out of an under the sink filter. You can put adapters on the top of it to attach to a garden hose. The replaceable filter should be changed once a year. Let me see if I can pull up his page address from google... http://www.pondrushes.net/ and the filter is here Not sure what all it would work on but the unit that you buy at the store would say what it filters out. When I add water I use the filter and I let it go out very slowly and find a rock to run it over (just because I'm sure, and I have, will forget it is running...) so far, knock wood, I haven't had an incident with chlorine poisoning. Let us know if you build one and how it works! kathy :-) I also fill up my pond by adding water VERY slowly. I actually set the hose attachment to mist and set this over the pond so that the mist 'rains' into the pond and flows in over rocks and plants. I can also leave for some time without the risk of overflow occurring in a short time while my attention was elsewhere . Yes it does take a couple of hours to top off my pond that is down 1/2 foot but I don't see that as a problem.. I have been doing this for years with no trouble and we live on Long Island where I'm fairly confident they put nasty stuff in the water. I know what you mean, Kathy. That is the same process I use, except I start in the veggie filter now. And if for some reason I think I simply MUST add it directly to the pond, it can take 4 to 5 hours to 'top' it off. So far, I have not notice a deleterious effect of any sort on fish or plants. Sometimes the algae might seem to 'suffer' but nothing serious. I actually look forward to topping off the pond this way now. My next door neighbor (who got me started with ponding) will notice me out and that usually leads to conversation and trading of info on our little hobby. :-) W. Dale Wilmdale Pond - http://home.pcisys.net/~muaddib |
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CanadianCowboy wrote: Another option is just having big plastic of buckets filled with tap water and letting it sit for a few days. This naturally eliminates the chlorine. Cowboy, Good idea, except that Chlorine isn't my problem. It's ammonia. And, BV, treating my water manually consists of dumping 20.00 worth of Amquel every time I top off my pond. There's gotta be a better way. Since the sink filters have activated charcoal, I hoped that would address the problem |
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Hi Ann,
Sorry the link didn't work. Goto www.homedepot.com and type in a search for 'whole house water filter' The price can vary from $39 to $70 depending on where you buy it. Yes, it removed the ammonia/chlorine mixture that was in our water. Before I used it, I tested the water before it entered the filter and after. Just letting the water age for a day or so doesn't work with chlorimine in the water. Amazing to me that if we were to mix ammonia and chlorine together it would cause a nasty gas and our water depts add that mixture to the water?? San Jose had to add it because they were almost at the legal limit of chlorine in the water and needed to add more, so they switched to chlorimine... Ann in Houston wrote: No, Wendy, I didn't move, I just went through a ponding downturn for a bit where my new (at the time) pond was no fun to write about due to several problems that I couldn't get under control. I went to the address you gave me. I didn't see the filter, but I'll go try again. I'll let you know if I can't find it. Do you think it woud work to just remove ammonia? I don't have chlorrine. |
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ps, I didn't mean to recommend HomeDepot, it's best to go to a local
hardware store so you can check the threading for the filter. You might need a small adapter. |
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Have you measured the ammonia level in the pond before and after water
changes? The filter will remove the ammonia, in most cases. I use Amquel after a spawn, but not for routine water changes of up to 50% with water treated with chloromine. The chlorine part that most of us are treating for is bad for the filter as well as the fish, and some don't bother to treat when they do 10% changes, because of dilution. -- RichToyBox http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html "Ann in Houston" wrote in message ups.com... CanadianCowboy wrote: Another option is just having big plastic of buckets filled with tap water and letting it sit for a few days. This naturally eliminates the chlorine. Cowboy, Good idea, except that Chlorine isn't my problem. It's ammonia. And, BV, treating my water manually consists of dumping 20.00 worth of Amquel every time I top off my pond. There's gotta be a better way. Since the sink filters have activated charcoal, I hoped that would address the problem |
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Rich,
Well, I did measure the other day when I had to put in about seven inches or so, when max gallons is 2200. That one did require addition of the amquel. But, I didn't need to add more than a bottle. Checked it later and it was ok. Then, the other night, I was concerned about the UV because it is kinda near the surface and it was threatening to be out of water by morning. So, I had to add about four inches. That was two nights ago. I just used fish behavior and fin redness or lack thereof to go by. I decided to check it tonight for safety's sake and it was okay. I wonder if the ammonia cotent rises and falls. It seems to me that if it was due to fertilizer runoff from increased ag activity in the area, it would be seasonal. I can't imagine how much fertilizer runoff it would take to affect the whole water table for this area. What would be the correct county office to ask about that? Of course, that might be pretty risky, to get the county's attention. It can be a double edged sword. anyway, I will be checking out the link to the filter by HD and the one Kathy sent. Thanks, Ann |
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Well, I did measure the other day when I had to put in about seven
inches or so, when max gallons is 2200. That one did require addition of the amquel. But, I didn't need to add more than a bottle. Checked it later and it was ok. You're using liquid Amquel? That could be part of your price problem. Dry form is cheaper to buy and ship. Another brand name is ChorAm-X, cheaper than the Amquel brand. www.aquaticeco.com is one place that sells both dry, I believe, worth googling or foogling to find the cheapest price. ~ jan ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~ |
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