Tom, why dont you expend at least 1/2 the energy you lavish on attacking me all the
time and help the newbies on this list? Ingrid


"Tom L. La Bron" wrote:

So Ingrid,

What you are saying is that Jo Ann (previously a LFS owner in Alabama that
has taken a couple of classes) is more knowledgeable than Ruth Francis Floyd
who is the author of both of this articles that BV listed.

Let us also set the record straight, you keep saying that Jo Ann developed
this technique. Hogwash. I doubt this very much, since it is listed in
numerous Aquaculture diagnostic books and has been used successfully by the
Aquaculture community for almost 40 years.

Jo Ann is hardly a credible goldfish expert. Matsui, is an expert, Thomma
is an expert, even Gary Hater is more of an expert than Jo Ann. Just
because you started telling everyone this, doesn't make it so in the World
of Goldfish.

Golly Ingrid you are shameless in this promotion of Jo Ann.

Tom L.L.
-------------------------------------------

wrote in message
...
this is older treatment. peroxide dip is much gentler treatment developed
by Jo Ann
Burke. Dr. Floyd was one of Jo Anns teachers. But she is general fish
and aquatics
expert, Jo Ann is GF expert. Ingrid

"Benign Vanilla" wrote:


"tc355" wrote in message
...
I'm trying the 1:9 peroxide dip for possible flukes. Actually, I only
need dip the area around one of the ventral fins which is the problem
site, so I'm not totally immersing my lionhead. If I need to do this
more than once, how often can the peroxide dip be used safely on my 4
inch goldfish?

These links may help as well,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/topic.asp?article=99730 and
http://www.iheartmypond.com/topic.asp?article=99731



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

wrote:
Tom, why dont you expend at least 1/2 the energy you lavish on
attacking me all the
time and help the newbies on this list? Ingrid


"Tom L. La Bron" wrote:

So Ingrid,

What you are saying is that Jo Ann (previously a LFS owner in
Alabama that
has taken a couple of classes) is more knowledgeable than Ruth
Francis Floyd
who is the author of both of this articles that BV listed.

Let us also set the record straight, you keep saying that Jo Ann
developed
this technique. Hogwash. I doubt this very much, since it is
listed in
numerous Aquaculture diagnostic books and has been used successfully
by the
Aquaculture community for almost 40 years.

Jo Ann is hardly a credible goldfish expert. Matsui, is an expert,
Thomma
is an expert, even Gary Hater is more of an expert than Jo Ann.
Just
because you started telling everyone this, doesn't make it so in the
World
of Goldfish.

Golly Ingrid you are shameless in this promotion of Jo Ann.

Tom L.L.
-------------------------------------------

wrote in message
...
this is older treatment. peroxide dip is much gentler treatment
developed
by Jo Ann
Burke. Dr. Floyd was one of Jo Anns teachers. But she is general
fish
and aquatics
expert, Jo Ann is GF expert. Ingrid

"Benign Vanilla" wrote:


"tc355" wrote in message

...
I'm trying the 1:9 peroxide dip for possible flukes. Actually, I
only
need dip the area around one of the ventral fins which is the
problem
site, so I'm not totally immersing my lionhead. If I need to do
this
more than once, how often can the peroxide dip be used safely on
my 4
inch goldfish?

These links may help as well,
http://www.iheartmypond.com/topic.asp?article=99730 and
http://www.iheartmypond.com/topic.asp?article=99731



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Ingrid, don't throw stones. When I first started on the net you spewed
a few stones at me and I'm sure others. Many of us don't have Dr.
before their name but do have college degrees. We do not
stone informed nor uninformed water gardeners. Happy holidays to all.

what stones are you talking about? When did I attack you personally and call you
names? Ingrid

wrote:
Ingrid, don't throw stones. When I first started on the net you spewed
a few stones at me and I'm sure others.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

what stones are you talking about? When did I attack you personally and call you
names? Ingrid

wrote:
Ingrid, don't throw stones. When I first started on the net you spewed
a few stones at me and I'm sure others.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
Tom, why dont you expend at least 1/2 the energy you lavish on
attacking me all the time and help the newbies on this list? Ingrid
=======================
Ingrid, don't throw stones. When I first started on the net you spewed
a few stones at me and I'm sure others. Many of us don't have Dr.
before their name but do have college degrees. We do not
stone informed nor uninformed water gardeners. Happy holidays to all.
-------------
AMEN! She hit me with a few in the past......

Carol.... the frugal ponder...
Remember this motto to live by:
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- "WOW -- What a Ride!"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
Tom, why dont you expend at least 1/2 the energy you lavish on
attacking me all the time and help the newbies on this list? Ingrid
=======================
Ingrid, don't throw stones. When I first started on the net you spewed
a few stones at me and I'm sure others. Many of us don't have Dr.
before their name but do have college degrees. We do not
stone informed nor uninformed water gardeners. Happy holidays to all.
-------------
AMEN! She hit me with a few in the past......

Carol.... the frugal ponder...
Remember this motto to live by:
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- "WOW -- What a Ride!"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~