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29-03-2004, 04:37 PM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
There is still SOOO much to do, but the hardest part is over, she's
running! I've added some dechlorinator and once the water warms up (that bottom drain & skimmer weir were COLD putting in) I'll get some little goldfish to start with. I'd like to get some plants then too, water lettuce and water hycanith like was suggested for me on here. Eventually I want to get an ivy of some sort to take over the rest of the bank around the waterfall and various plants around the pond itself. Obviously I still need a ton more rock, I'm planning to raid construction sites after dark ;-) Thanks for everyone who helped me with different parts. http://www.woosworld.net/pond/ (One very happy first time pond owner) Josh |
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30-03-2004, 04:15 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Mike Patterson wrote in message . ..
Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 04:24 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Mike Patterson wrote in message . ..
Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 04:45 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Mike Patterson wrote in message . ..
Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 04:45 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Mike Patterson wrote in message . ..
Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 04:51 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Hi Josh,
Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 04:51 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Hi Josh,
Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 06:34 PM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after
that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? "Nedra" wrote in message link.net... Hi Josh, Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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30-03-2004, 09:27 PM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
"Josh" wrote in message om... I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? Assuming you have proper filtration, you should be fine. Technically you could keep a koi in a couple gallons of water and call it a Betta, if you had the proper filtration. The 1000+100per limit is a general rule of thumb that in general provides enough buffer for swings in ammonia, nitrites, etc. With this buffer you are able to having rising levels without instant fish kills. It's akin to being in a burning house, or near a burning a house. You make the choice which would be easier to tolerate. LOL. I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! What are you treating for? There are 2 or 3 of us on this group, that don't fix it, if it ain't broke. Additives? What for? This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? Nature is a funny thing. snip -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
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31-03-2004, 03:01 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Yep, Josh! Sounds like you have plenty of Water ...... LOL
Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? "Nedra" wrote in message link.net... Hi Josh, Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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31-03-2004, 03:03 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Yep, Josh! Sounds like you have plenty of Water ...... LOL
Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? "Nedra" wrote in message link.net... Hi Josh, Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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31-03-2004, 03:08 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Yep, Josh! Sounds like you have plenty of Water ...... LOL
Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? "Nedra" wrote in message link.net... Hi Josh, Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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31-03-2004, 03:22 AM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
Yep, Josh! Sounds like you have plenty of Water ...... LOL
Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... I thought everyone said 1000 gallons for the first + 100/koi after that (meaning 1300 gallons for 4) - my pond is 14' long x 9' wide x 2'+ deep giving me about 1900 gallons(actually more, as my specs were 2 feet deep but she's running more around 2.5 giving me closer to 2300), I should be fine shouldn't I? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! This morning the blue jays were eating my water hycanith, is that normal of the little buggers? "Nedra" wrote in message link.net... Hi Josh, Your pond and waterfall look very nice. I'm worried about how many gallons of water you have though? 4 Koi will need lots of water! Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Josh" wrote in message om... Mike Patterson wrote in message . .. Stay away from the construction sites at night, that's asking to spend an evening explaining to the nice men in uniforms what you're doing and why it has to be done in the dark. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. Hah ;-) Sorry, I do intend to ask (my Dad does construction up North so it was really his idea saying just that, they pay to have it hauled away so often they would love for you to take it) We were supposed to have goldfish in the pond, but my wife got a look at the koi and now we have 4 to start with. Not nearly enough plants, I hope some of them get growing pretty quick! |
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01-04-2004, 09:15 PM
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Thanks guys - my pond is running!
"BenignVanilla" wrote in message ...
Assuming you have proper filtration, you should be fine. Technically you could keep a koi in a couple gallons of water and call it a Betta, if you had the proper filtration. The 1000+100per limit is a general rule of thumb that in general provides enough buffer for swings in ammonia, nitrites, etc. With this buffer you are able to having rising levels without instant fish kills. It's akin to being in a burning house, or near a burning a house. You make the choice which would be easier to tolerate. LOL. Currently I just have a skimmer with a bottom drain feeding a biofalls with 3 thick filter mats. It came with the bag for some media, but I'm a dolt and put the filters in the bag thinking that was the media ;-) I need to get some in there, I see alot of people use little chunks of foam or is there something better? I put salt in last night along with 2 different things the pond store gave - one to help my lilies grow and the other was like a bacteria shot, I meant to write down the names for here(I also got water hycanith and a barley bale). I don't nearly have enough plants though, so I hope they get growing pretty quick! What are you treating for? There are 2 or 3 of us on this group, that don't fix it, if it ain't broke. Additives? What for? They told me salt (1lb/100gallons) was a must for a startup tank. Maybe they just sold me something I don't need I dunno. I had planned on turtles and goldfish but my wife saw the koi and declared we were having those. I was pretty sure I had enough water so I said ok. The problem is now I have to start learning again all over ;-) I had previously been skipping all the koi comments. Currently my only filter is my biofalls, do I need to get an external filter and if so what kind would work the best? Also, the pond store was convinvced I needed a UV but I would be more interested in the natural way, plants etc(partly cost, partly because I just dont think all this external stuff should be needed) and I know some of you on here subscibe to that. Can anyone send me to some startup reading? Thanks for all the help guys/gals, I'd much rather listen to people who have ponds on here then the guys at the store who just want to sell me another 20 things. Plus I'm a DIY'r and this is much more the spirit ;-) |
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