a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a normal
position... Any ideas?

Check http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/puregold/ and see if you find
anything.
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"dkat" wrote in message
et...
a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they
want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a
normal
position... Any ideas?

Sounds like swimming bladder infection - fantails seem to be prone to this,
especially the ones that are really wide at the front part of their body - I
was able to treat a couple of mine in a "hospital" tank , but it always came
back www.koivet.com is a good source for reference
Gale :~)
" a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they
want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a
normal
position... Any ideas?

gotta find out the water parameters. and find out what the condition of the bottom
of the pond is. if there is a thick layer of rotting debris on teh bottom, they will
root around in it looking for food and get a gill full of hydrogen sulfide and that
will make em float. the other possibility is gross overfeeding.
what kind of aeration in the pond?
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:

a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a normal
position... Any ideas?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

gotta find out the water parameters. and find out what the condition of the bottom
of the pond is. if there is a thick layer of rotting debris on teh bottom, they will
root around in it looking for food and get a gill full of hydrogen sulfide and that
will make em float. the other possibility is gross overfeeding.
what kind of aeration in the pond?
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:

a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a normal
position... Any ideas?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

The tank is spotless at all times (he keeps back up water in a container for
5 days to eliminate chlorine and then uses this to clean the tank). Given
that it is over-feeding (very likely as he was told that you can feed them
as much as they want and the tank has no plants in it so the fish only get
dry food I believe), what can he do now?
wrote in message
...
gotta find out the water parameters. and find out what the condition of
the bottom
of the pond is. if there is a thick layer of rotting debris on teh
bottom, they will
root around in it looking for food and get a gill full of hydrogen sulfide
and that
will make em float. the other possibility is gross overfeeding.
what kind of aeration in the pond?
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:

a friend's fantails seem to keep coming up to the surface whether they
want
to or not. One has died already and the other though it looks fine is
not
acting right. It basically seems to not be able to keep itself in a
normal
position... Any ideas?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

aha .. well, out into a pond for the summer OR
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...m.htm#floating
problems
try the no food and/or peas and epsom salts to flush them out.
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:
The tank is spotless at all times (he keeps back up water in a container for
5 days to eliminate chlorine and then uses this to clean the tank). Given
that it is over-feeding (very likely as he was told that you can feed them
as much as they want and the tank has no plants in it so the fish only get
dry food I believe), what can he do now?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

aha .. well, out into a pond for the summer OR
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...m.htm#floating
problems
try the no food and/or peas and epsom salts to flush them out.
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:
The tank is spotless at all times (he keeps back up water in a container for
5 days to eliminate chlorine and then uses this to clean the tank). Given
that it is over-feeding (very likely as he was told that you can feed them
as much as they want and the tank has no plants in it so the fish only get
dry food I believe), what can he do now?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I agree, get them out to a pond. I have found dealing with orandas, once
they go to the flip side, if they can go outside they have to go to
passing-on-side. I've moved to moors and ryunkins for now. ~ jan


On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:00:37 GMT, wrote:

aha .. well, out into a pond for the summer OR
http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/p...m.htm#floating
problems
try the no food and/or peas and epsom salts to flush them out.
Ingrid

"dkat" wrote:
The tank is spotless at all times (he keeps back up water in a container for
5 days to eliminate chlorine and then uses this to clean the tank). Given
that it is over-feeding (very likely as he was told that you can feed them
as much as they want and the tank has no plants in it so the fish only get
dry food I believe), what can he do now?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.


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