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Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:29 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=

I can tell you what it cost me for my pond ....
I bought a 60-70 gallon tub from the neighbor for $10. I bought the
sparce rock skirt for 28$. I paid about $10 postage for the plants i
have. I paid $10 for the border i put around the pond. I paid 24 cents
for the goldfish. I did all my own work and i do not have a pump or
filter. My water is clear. I know i have the cheapest pond here.

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jammer
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do goldfish clean the water? do they survive well in the winter? i live
in Texas, so the winters are usually a bit more mild, but it still gets
cold.

=will=

Hey you are a good son. I almost put mine in for my mother, but she died
before I got that far....and when I saw the mess my yard was, I realized had
she been alive, it would have killed her...big grin.

We used roofing rubber from a friend, for the liner...man strength for the
diggers....biggest outlay was an electrical installation in the yard, and the
darn pump/filter thing. But and I feel like the commercial....the finished
product...is priceless.

Maureen in Phila

i bought a blue, plastic 300 gallon stock tank for $185 at the feed store in
ft stockton. my cousin strapped it to the top of her brand new mini-van and
brought it to me. i paid her $20 for gas, plus took her, her husband and
mother to lunch. i had the brick i stacked around it already so that was
just my labor. the pump cost $28. the custom-made bird bath was $25. i paid
a kid named max to come help my sweetheart dig the hole. i had to pick max
up and take him home ($10 gas), plus paying him $30. some of the plants came
from a nursery in midland (gas $30). some of the plants i traded newsgroup
members for and some the ng member sent them for just the postage.

mad
--
Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.

From: (will)
Organization: WebTV Subscriber
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:29 -0600 (CST)
Subject: garden pond virgin......

Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=




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do goldfish clean the water? do they survive well in the winter? i live
in Texas, so the winters are usually a bit more mild, but it still gets
cold.

=will=




If you are in a really cold area like I in Connecticut you need to have the
pond be at least 2 foot deep and you also need to keep the ice open at least a
little for gas exchange. Not all fish, and not all goldfish can weather the
storm so to speak. I myself have all feeder fish and some of them have become
quite beautiful as they grew. I have some lovely fantails, a couple all white
ones and Buddha in her glory has become quite large )


Colleen Ann
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes of fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

and some the ng member sent them for just the postage.

mad

This will probably be me this year lol, no one told me how well arrowhead grows
I went from 2 plants 4 seasons ago to Lord knows how many now... I have given
them away and donated quite a few to the garden club for their spring sale.
Colleen

Good point, Neil: the *first* pond isn't expensive . . . but what happens
after you've been bitten by The Bug and learn the "proper" way of doing
things is what gits ya! Ahhhh, who needs a retirement fund anyway?

Lee

"Neil Law" neil dot a dot law at ncr dot com wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:29 -0600 (CST), (will)
wrote:

Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=
90 gallons, that's an aquarium

Seriously, our first "pond" was a 50 gallon preform pond. If you don't
count the
fish I lost because of not doing research, I'd expect I spent in total
125-150
for pond, pump, fish and some plants. Fish were $0.39 ($CDN) fantail
goldfish
from Petsmart. That was 6 years ago and most are still with me (with all
of
their offspring).

Problem is I live in the great white north. Come fall we had to take the
fish
in. At first I put the 5 goldfish in a 15 gallon aquarium. Once I saw the
size
of them I realized that wasn't going to work (man, they grew the first
year).

So, more money spent on a stock tank and homemade filter. Went from 3
gallons
per fish to 20 gallons. Things were a lot better.

Goldfish are pretty dirty creatures. Unless your into changing water
frequently,
or have a really good filter, the more water the better.

The real problem with ponds is it's not the first one that is expensive.
You get
a pond and you want more. When we got the pond I went out and got 2
aquariums.
We moved 3 years ago and when from a 50 gallon pond to a 1,400 gallon one.
I'm
now trying to put in more.

BTW, the 50 gallon has been donated to some good friends across the road.
I
helped them put it in and manage their pond. We're boarding their fish for
the
winter. So, I've gotten another pond by proxy.

Well my pond was about $1,200.00 thats for the liner,pump,vggie
filter,rocks and stone,wood logs around pond, and food and beer for the
help that dug it. It was another $900 for the deck and street light and
gif plug in set up. Of course I'm not done yet,am putting in a bog with
a stream that flows in to pond with a bridge over the stream. So you see
your never done always want more lol. I would turn my whole yard into a
pond but wife wants some grass in the yard.


http://community.webtv.net/rebeljoe/POND

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:29 -0600 (CST), (will) wrote:

Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=
90 gallons, that's an aquarium

Seriously, our first "pond" was a 50 gallon preform pond. If you don't count the
fish I lost because of not doing research, I'd expect I spent in total 125-150
for pond, pump, fish and some plants. Fish were $0.39 ($CDN) fantail goldfish
from Petsmart. That was 6 years ago and most are still with me (with all of
their offspring).

Problem is I live in the great white north. Come fall we had to take the fish
in. At first I put the 5 goldfish in a 15 gallon aquarium. Once I saw the size
of them I realized that wasn't going to work (man, they grew the first year).

So, more money spent on a stock tank and homemade filter. Went from 3 gallons
per fish to 20 gallons. Things were a lot better.

Goldfish are pretty dirty creatures. Unless your into changing water frequently,
or have a really good filter, the more water the better.

The real problem with ponds is it's not the first one that is expensive. You get
a pond and you want more. When we got the pond I went out and got 2 aquariums.
We moved 3 years ago and when from a 50 gallon pond to a 1,400 gallon one. I'm
now trying to put in more.

BTW, the 50 gallon has been donated to some good friends across the road. I
helped them put it in and manage their pond. We're boarding their fish for the
winter. So, I've gotten another pond by proxy.

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:29 -0600 (CST), (will) wrote:

Hey.
I have been considering installing a gardenpond for my momma. I figure
it will be good experience for me when I have my own home, and if she
pays for it, why not?

I just wanted to know (on average) what does the total bill come out
like for a new pond, what is the list of things that I need to have, and
are the "pond in a box kits" that claim to have everything you need
really worth it?

How large is a decent pond? I hear 90 gallon and this and that, but I
don't have a clue how large that really is......

Thanks for all of your help.

=will=
90 gallons, that's an aquarium

Seriously, our first "pond" was a 50 gallon preform pond. If you don't count the
fish I lost because of not doing research, I'd expect I spent in total 125-150
for pond, pump, fish and some plants. Fish were $0.39 ($CDN) fantail goldfish
from Petsmart. That was 6 years ago and most are still with me (with all of
their offspring).

Problem is I live in the great white north. Come fall we had to take the fish
in. At first I put the 5 goldfish in a 15 gallon aquarium. Once I saw the size
of them I realized that wasn't going to work (man, they grew the first year).

So, more money spent on a stock tank and homemade filter. Went from 3 gallons
per fish to 20 gallons. Things were a lot better.

Goldfish are pretty dirty creatures. Unless your into changing water frequently,
or have a really good filter, the more water the better.

The real problem with ponds is it's not the first one that is expensive. You get
a pond and you want more. When we got the pond I went out and got 2 aquariums.
We moved 3 years ago and when from a 50 gallon pond to a 1,400 gallon one. I'm
now trying to put in more.

BTW, the 50 gallon has been donated to some good friends across the road. I
helped them put it in and manage their pond. We're boarding their fish for the
winter. So, I've gotten another pond by proxy.