I've been wondering. How do you do a water change on the larger side, 300+
gallons. Do you sit there with a gallon milk jug? Or is there an easier
way. And do you have to count the drops or can it be converted to teaspoons
and tablespoons. I can't imagine counting 600 drops of liquid.

Thanks,
Bob


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Bob,

I use a pond dechlorinator, rather than an aquarium product. Mine gives the
recommended dosage in ounces per hundred gallons, so it is much easier to
measure. I would measure, 1. the number of drops in a teaspoon, tablespoon,
or ounce medicine cup, and then use the appropriate number of those. For
larger changes, a drop over or under is not going to make a big difference,
like it would in a 10 gallon aquarium.
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"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
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I've been wondering. How do you do a water change on the larger side,
300+
gallons. Do you sit there with a gallon milk jug? Or is there an easier
way. And do you have to count the drops or can it be converted to
teaspoons
and tablespoons. I can't imagine counting 600 drops of liquid.

Thanks,
Bob


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Sitting here rereading my post, I realized I left part of what I wanted to
ask out. When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put 400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do it a little
at a time?






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I put my dechlor in at the start of filling. I estimate how much water is
being changed and then guess the amount of dechlor. If you have a water
meter on the end of your hose, you could put in enough for say 100 gallons,
then the next, and so forth. This would give a better approximation of the
amount needed. I always overdose.
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"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
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Sitting here rereading my post, I realized I left part of what I wanted to
ask out. When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put 400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do it a
little
at a time?






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"RichToyBox" wrote:

Bob,

I use a pond dechlorinator, rather than an aquarium product. Mine gives the
recommended dosage in ounces per hundred gallons, so it is much easier to
measure. I would measure, 1. the number of drops in a teaspoon, tablespoon,
or ounce medicine cup, and then use the appropriate number of those. For
larger changes, a drop over or under is not going to make a big difference,
like it would in a 10 gallon aquarium.

And the fish are ok with that large amount of chlorinated water? My pond is
between 600-700 gallons and I have 8 goldfish, 8 inchs down to 3.

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
.net...
I put my dechlor in at the start of filling. I estimate how much water is
being changed and then guess the amount of dechlor. If you have a water
meter on the end of your hose, you could put in enough for say 100
gallons,
then the next, and so forth. This would give a better approximation of
the
amount needed. I always overdose.
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"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
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Sitting here rereading my post, I realized I left part of what I wanted
to
ask out. When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put 400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do it a
little
at a time?






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Just eyeball it! Exact measure would not be important.
Jim and Sara Humphries, Victoria, BC
"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
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I've been wondering. How do you do a water change on the larger side,
300+
gallons. Do you sit there with a gallon milk jug? Or is there an easier
way. And do you have to count the drops or can it be converted to
teaspoons
and tablespoons. I can't imagine counting 600 drops of liquid.

Thanks,
Bob


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Thunderbird84 wrote:

Sitting here rereading my post, I realized I left part of what I wanted to
ask out. When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put 400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do it a little
at a time?


Some water has a lot of chlorine, some water has a lot of chloramine and some
water has lesser amounts...so it depends. If your pond is 4000 gal and you
replace 400 gal with water that has low levels of chlorine or chloramine then
you can probably get away without using dechlor.

If you have a 1000 gal pond and you replace 400 gal water with high levels of
chlorine or chloramine then you will need dechlor. In addition you should add
water slowly as drastic changes in temperature or PH can shock your ponds
inhabitants.

I mix the dechlor and water in a clean trash can and then add it to the pond.
If you add the dechlor to the pond first you run the risk of the dechlor
reacting with the organic matter or other in the pond rendering it less
effective on the chlorine/chloramine. I am not a chemist and this is just an
educated guess.

Zeuspaul

I use a similiar technique for my aquariums. Amquel in the tank for a 50%
water change, water out of the hose. Never had any problems other than
forgetting the amquel. I would make a rough guess of the volume of water you
remove (231 cubic inches per gal) and treat accordingly. You are unlikely to
have any problems if you miss by 20% or so on the low side or overdose by
100%.

"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
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And the fish are ok with that large amount of chlorinated water? My pond
is
between 600-700 gallons and I have 8 goldfish, 8 inchs down to 3.

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
.net...
I put my dechlor in at the start of filling. I estimate how much water
is
being changed and then guess the amount of dechlor. If you have a water
meter on the end of your hose, you could put in enough for say 100
gallons,
then the next, and so forth. This would give a better approximation of
the
amount needed. I always overdose.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Thunderbird84" wrote in message
...
Sitting here rereading my post, I realized I left part of what I
wanted
to
ask out. When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put
400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do it a
little
at a time?






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the chlorine/chloramine reacts with organic matter, this is what saves the butt of
people who do water changes without dechlor. putting the dechlor in the pond is
fine. I would suggest an experiment to somebody on the list. Try running water thru
a container of peat moss or other organic material and see what the chlorine levels
are. Weigh the peat moss, run the water thru until the test shows chlorine. this
could well be an emergency dechlor method if regular dechlor isnt available. but
idea needs to be tested first. Ingrid

If you add the dechlor to the pond first you run the risk of the dechlor
reacting with the organic matter or other in the pond rendering it less
effective on the chlorine/chloramine.

"Thunderbird84" wrote
When you do the water change, say 400 gallons, do you put 400
gallons into the pond and than mix in the dechlor, or do you do
it a little at a time?

I fill a 5-gallon bucket with water, put it in the pond, put an amount
of dechlor in the bucket appropriate for the amount of water to be added
to the pond, and then add the water in the bucket and let it overflow
into the pond. If desired, you could add it to the bucket a little at a
time.

If you wanted to, I suppose, you could use a (clean and brand new)
sprayer like you use for spraying plants and add the dechlor as you
would any other chemical. But I think this may be unnecessary.


Michael Fermanis
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 01:10:37 GMT, wrote:

the chlorine/chloramine reacts with organic matter, this is what saves the butt of
people who do water changes without dechlor. putting the dechlor in the pond is
fine. I would suggest an experiment to somebody on the list. Try running water thru
a container of peat moss or other organic material and see what the chlorine levels
are. Weigh the peat moss, run the water thru until the test shows chlorine. this
could well be an emergency dechlor method if regular dechlor isnt available. but
idea needs to be tested first. Ingrid

If you add the dechlor to the pond first you run the risk of the dechlor
reacting with the organic matter or other in the pond rendering it less
effective on the chlorine/chloramine.

Interesting idea Ingrid. ;o)

Dechlor can hang around for a couple of days, keep that in mind when using
PP as dechlor will deactivate PP. ~ jan

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