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It's beautiful.
Mike "Greasle" wrote in message ... http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje1.jpg http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje2.jpg http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje3.jpg |
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elm?
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You are missing the following:
A picture of the flower A picture of the fruit Where is the tree found? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Iris Cohen wrote:
You are missing the following: A picture of the flower A picture of the fruit Where is the tree found? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) true Iris aint got anny pictures of flowers or fruit (jet) but the tree is in our front garden and i think ist exotic. Our front garden is in The Netherlands. mid/north europe Here ara some more pictures the first 3 we know allready http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje1.jpg http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje2.jpg http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje3.jpg http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje4.jpg (under the canopy ) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje5.jpg ( 3.5 meter high) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje6.jpg (suffers from a parasite) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje7.jpg (parasite chamber ) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje8.jpg (downside from the leave) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje9.jpg (leaves on the branches) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje10.jpg (upside from the leave) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje11.jpg (downside from the leave) http://www.stefan.moonen.net/boompje12.jpg (downside from the leave) |
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In article , Greasle
writes aint got anny pictures of flowers or fruit (jet) but the tree is in our front garden and i think ist exotic. Our front garden is in The Netherlands. mid/north europe Apart from Elm, _Ulmus_, possibilities are Hornbeam, _Carpinus_, and Southern Beech, _Nothofagus_. For Roble Beech, _Nothofagus obliqua_ Mitchell refers to the "strikingly regular herring-bone shoots which fan downwards and outwards in slender sprays". (The fruit is an 8x5 mm ovoid at the base of each leaf.) _Carpinus betulus_ typically has more pairs of veins than shown by your photographs. This may not be the case for all other _Carpinus_ species. It may also be worth looking at _Zelkova_ and Hop-Hornbeam, _Ostraya_. Taking a leaf off the tree and photographing it in isolation may assist in identification. According to Stace the asymmetrical leaf bases of Ulmus are unmistakable, but we don't have a clear view of the leaf bases. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
Taking a leaf off the tree and photographing it in isolation may assist in identification. According to Stace the asymmetrical leaf bases of Ulmus are unmistakable, but we don't have a clear view of the leaf bases. + + + I have no doubt at all about the asymetrical leaf base, which is pretty clear. Also the lateral veins which run up to the leaf margin, which is indeed doubly toothed. I am very inclined to Ulmus minor, but am put of by all the small 'leafs' (stipules?) that are all over the place. PvR |
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In article , P van
Rijckevorsel writes Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef Taking a leaf off the tree and photographing it in isolation may assist in identification. According to Stace the asymmetrical leaf bases of Ulmus are unmistakable, but we don't have a clear view of the leaf bases. + + + I have no doubt at all about the asymetrical leaf base, which is pretty clear. Also the lateral veins which run up to the leaf margin, which is indeed doubly toothed. I am very inclined to Ulmus minor, but am put of by all the small 'leafs' (stipules?) that are all over the place. PvR I had interpreted them as side-shoots with immature leaves. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley schreef
I had interpreted them as side-shoots with immature leaves. + + + Could be, but I am not expecting them in elm, so they make me doubt PvR |
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ain't got any pictures of flowers or fruit (yet)
You are not likely to. but the tree is in our front garden and i think it is exotic. Our front garden is in The Netherlands. Sorry, unless I am mistaken it is no more exotic than a windmill. When I saw your first pictures, I thought "elm?" but I wasn't sure. Your additional closeups and the parasite rang the bell. You have Dutch elm, Ulmus xhollandica (minor x glabra or minor x plotii). I have a bonsai 'Jacqueline Hillier', which is a dwarf variety of the same hybrid. When I put mine in front of the computer and compared them, she yelled "Mama!" Your parasite is a leaf gall mite. I get it occasionally on my Chinese elm. If it gets too annoying, spray with a systemic insecticide. Over here we use Orthenex. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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You got a picture of this little baby ?
Iris Cohen wrote: ain't got any pictures of flowers or fruit (yet) You are not likely to. but the tree is in our front garden and i think it is exotic. Our front garden is in The Netherlands. Sorry, unless I am mistaken it is no more exotic than a windmill. When I saw your first pictures, I thought "elm?" but I wasn't sure. Your additional closeups and the parasite rang the bell. You have Dutch elm, Ulmus xhollandica (minor x glabra or minor x plotii). I have a bonsai 'Jacqueline Hillier', which is a dwarf variety of the same hybrid. When I put mine in front of the computer and compared them, she yelled "Mama!" Your parasite is a leaf gall mite. I get it occasionally on my Chinese elm. If it gets too annoying, spray with a systemic insecticide. Over here we use Orthenex. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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I'm 99% sure your are right !! it must be the
Ulmus minor 'Jacqueline Hillier' sometimes called Ulmus hollandica 'Jacqueline Hillier' Thx Iris Iris Cohen wrote: ain't got any pictures of flowers or fruit (yet) You are not likely to. but the tree is in our front garden and i think it is exotic. Our front garden is in The Netherlands. Sorry, unless I am mistaken it is no more exotic than a windmill. When I saw your first pictures, I thought "elm?" but I wasn't sure. Your additional closeups and the parasite rang the bell. You have Dutch elm, Ulmus xhollandica (minor x glabra or minor x plotii). I have a bonsai 'Jacqueline Hillier', which is a dwarf variety of the same hybrid. When I put mine in front of the computer and compared them, she yelled "Mama!" Your parasite is a leaf gall mite. I get it occasionally on my Chinese elm. If it gets too annoying, spray with a systemic insecticide. Over here we use Orthenex. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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