My oh my. Aren't you wound up tight, Blueboy.

You are not that far away from going to some Texas university with a rifle
and climbing to the top of the clock tower to take shots at everyone, are
you?

Reclassification of Dendrobium orchids? Time will tell. They are not the
only plant group to undergo a major overhaul in recent years and many more
large genera will surely follow.


Vcoerulea wrote in message
...
My goodness, god has crossed Cruciferae with Rosaceae! Maybe now we will
truely have a cabbage rose. How do you profess to know all about me and my
philosophy when I can't "know anything about (you)". Horticulture is a
complicated application of botany, chemistry, biology, & geology (as in
medicine being the practical appllication of medical research). Too bad
you
never learned the art/science. It's probably just too much for you to
handle. If we get back to your narrow world, what do you think about the
recent reclassification scheme of dendrobium orchids?

"Cereoid+10" wrote in message
. com...
What does sniffing "cabbages on a stick" have to do with succulent
plants?
Man-mad flowers do not help anyone to understand the real world.

It is predictable that the "idiot stepchildren" would be offended by
being
called so and completely miss the point.

You should know your limitations and accept that "There is far more in
heaven and earth than is even dreamt of in your philosophy".

BTW, this is a botany newsgroup not one for pedantic "Master Gardeners"
who
like talking about themselves. You don't know anything about me Gary and
I
find you to be a bore with your generic advice.


Vcoerulea wrote in message
...

"Beverly Erlebacher" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Vcoerulea wrote:

"Cereoid+10" wrote in message
igy.com...

Quite correct. However, that's not the point here. The above
epiphytes
have
general, common requirements as do the terrestrials. If gwayner
just
wants
help in growing the plant to blooming, that's all he needs to know.
You
can
call the plant an SOB for all the plant cares about names. There's
no
reason
on earth a person can't grow a plant without knowing its "real"
name.
The
general rules I listed earlier will help him grow just about any of
the
species fitting the description of night blooming cereus.

Just ignore "Cereoid". Most of us do. About 95% of his posts are
efforts to 'prove' how superior he is by insulting other people in
childish ways, like making fun of their names, while he conceals his
own.

Thanks for the interesting and knowledgable information about
growing
this group of epiphytic cacti. One thing you've left out is
information on your climate, and where you grow the plants - house,
greenhouse, or outdoors.

I've grown Epiphyllum oxypetalum a couple of times from cuttings,
but
it's always gotten too big before it bloomed, so I've had to give it
away. I had an Epiphyllum 'Ackermanni' for some years which bloomed
spectacularly indoors in April-May every year if I put it outdoors
for
a few months in the summer. I finally had to give that one away
too,
because it was taking too much of my limited window space. I'm in
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

At any rate I wonder if one reason the original poster is having
trouble getting his plant to bloom is for lack of sufficient intense
light. Even if it's been in the same window all this time, 20 years
is
enough for trees to grow big enough to obstruct light, etc. He
might
consider putting it outdoors in warm weather, very gradually
exposing
it to sunlight to prevent burning, and if he's in a very sunny
climate,
keeping it in partial shade all the time it's out. I put my
epiphytes
where they get sun from about 2pm on, and it's often cloudy or hazy
here in summer.

Thanks for the advice on Cereoid. I pretty much came to the same
conclusion
for anyone who can have a temper tantrum online when they don't get
their
own way. I just felt horribly guilty if I didn't offer some advice to
the
original poster, if indeed it was a sincere question, when I might be
of
help. I also can't see anyone wanting to post to this board wanting
practical info if all they're going to get is ridicule from some
pompas
ass
(forgive the name calling).
My climate is considerably different from yours. I live in South
Carolina
where the sun is strong even in winter. I grow mostly in a greenhouse
with
some summering outdoors. Most stay in with cooling from evaporative
cooling
pads and constant fan circulation. The covering is double-wall
polycarbonate
which is almost as "clear as glass". We use 50% shade cloth over much
of
the
GH year-round, and add more over various parts as the season
progresses.
As far as my personal collection goes, I am meticulous in documenting
names,
crosses, awards, etc and is probably bigger than Cereoid ever grew in
his
lifetime. Sounds like he only quotes book knowledge and has no
practical
experience himself. There are a few plants salvaged from various
places
that
my wife or I really enjoy even though they have "no name". I know what
they
are but may be missing a varietal name. I feel sorry for Cereoid that
he
can't enjoy what's really important in life.
Stop "and smell the roses".
Gary

Reclassification of Dendrobium orchids?

Apparently the reclassification (actually just the breakup of some sections
into separate genera) by Clements & Jones has not been accepted outside of
Australia. However, their designation of Den. lithocola as a separate species
made a lot of us happy.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

From: "Cereoid+10"

Vcoerulea wrote

My goodness, god has crossed Cruciferae with Rosaceae! Maybe now we will
truely have a cabbage rose. How do you profess to know all about me and my
philosophy when I can't "know anything about (you)". Horticulture is a
complicated application of botany, chemistry, biology, & geology (as in
medicine being the practical appllication of medical research). Too bad
you
never learned the art/science. It's probably just too much for you to
handle. If we get back to your narrow world, what do you think about the
recent reclassification scheme of dendrobium orchids?


Reclassification of Dendrobium orchids? Time will tell. They are not the
only plant group to undergo a major overhaul in recent years and many more
large genera will surely follow.


How amazingly general of an answer! Is it possible that you don't know anything
about it and can't be bothered to look it up?

Sean



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My oh my. Aren't you wound up tight, Blueboy.

You are not that far away from going to some Texas university with a rifle
and climbing to the top of the clock tower to take shots at everyone, are
you?

Reclassification of Dendrobium orchids? Time will tell. They are not the
only plant group to undergo a major overhaul in recent years and many more
large genera will surely follow.


Vcoerulea wrote in message
...
My goodness, god has crossed Cruciferae with Rosaceae! Maybe now we will
truely have a cabbage rose. How do you profess to know all about me and my
philosophy when I can't "know anything about (you)". Horticulture is a
complicated application of botany, chemistry, biology, & geology (as in
medicine being the practical appllication of medical research). Too bad
you
never learned the art/science. It's probably just too much for you to
handle. If we get back to your narrow world, what do you think about the
recent reclassification scheme of dendrobium orchids?

"Cereoid+10" wrote in message
. com...
What does sniffing "cabbages on a stick" have to do with succulent
plants?
Man-mad flowers do not help anyone to understand the real world.

It is predictable that the "idiot stepchildren" would be offended by
being
called so and completely miss the point.

You should know your limitations and accept that "There is far more in
heaven and earth than is even dreamt of in your philosophy".

BTW, this is a botany newsgroup not one for pedantic "Master Gardeners"
who
like talking about themselves. You don't know anything about me Gary and
I
find you to be a bore with your generic advice.


Vcoerulea wrote in message
...

"Beverly Erlebacher" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Vcoerulea wrote:

"Cereoid+10" wrote in message
igy.com...

Quite correct. However, that's not the point here. The above
epiphytes
have
general, common requirements as do the terrestrials. If gwayner
just
wants
help in growing the plant to blooming, that's all he needs to know.
You
can
call the plant an SOB for all the plant cares about names. There's
no
reason
on earth a person can't grow a plant without knowing its "real"
name.
The
general rules I listed earlier will help him grow just about any of
the
species fitting the description of night blooming cereus.

Just ignore "Cereoid". Most of us do. About 95% of his posts are
efforts to 'prove' how superior he is by insulting other people in
childish ways, like making fun of their names, while he conceals his
own.

Thanks for the interesting and knowledgable information about
growing
this group of epiphytic cacti. One thing you've left out is
information on your climate, and where you grow the plants - house,
greenhouse, or outdoors.

I've grown Epiphyllum oxypetalum a couple of times from cuttings,
but
it's always gotten too big before it bloomed, so I've had to give it
away. I had an Epiphyllum 'Ackermanni' for some years which bloomed
spectacularly indoors in April-May every year if I put it outdoors
for
a few months in the summer. I finally had to give that one away
too,
because it was taking too much of my limited window space. I'm in
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

At any rate I wonder if one reason the original poster is having
trouble getting his plant to bloom is for lack of sufficient intense
light. Even if it's been in the same window all this time, 20 years
is
enough for trees to grow big enough to obstruct light, etc. He
might
consider putting it outdoors in warm weather, very gradually
exposing
it to sunlight to prevent burning, and if he's in a very sunny
climate,
keeping it in partial shade all the time it's out. I put my
epiphytes
where they get sun from about 2pm on, and it's often cloudy or hazy
here in summer.

Thanks for the advice on Cereoid. I pretty much came to the same
conclusion
for anyone who can have a temper tantrum online when they don't get
their
own way. I just felt horribly guilty if I didn't offer some advice to
the
original poster, if indeed it was a sincere question, when I might be
of
help. I also can't see anyone wanting to post to this board wanting
practical info if all they're going to get is ridicule from some
pompas
ass
(forgive the name calling).
My climate is considerably different from yours. I live in South
Carolina
where the sun is strong even in winter. I grow mostly in a greenhouse
with
some summering outdoors. Most stay in with cooling from evaporative
cooling
pads and constant fan circulation. The covering is double-wall
polycarbonate
which is almost as "clear as glass". We use 50% shade cloth over much
of
the
GH year-round, and add more over various parts as the season
progresses.
As far as my personal collection goes, I am meticulous in documenting
names,
crosses, awards, etc and is probably bigger than Cereoid ever grew in
his
lifetime. Sounds like he only quotes book knowledge and has no
practical
experience himself. There are a few plants salvaged from various
places
that
my wife or I really enjoy even though they have "no name". I know what
they
are but may be missing a varietal name. I feel sorry for Cereoid that
he
can't enjoy what's really important in life.
Stop "and smell the roses".
Gary

From: "Cereoid+10"

Vcoerulea wrote

My goodness, god has crossed Cruciferae with Rosaceae! Maybe now we will
truely have a cabbage rose. How do you profess to know all about me and my
philosophy when I can't "know anything about (you)". Horticulture is a
complicated application of botany, chemistry, biology, & geology (as in
medicine being the practical appllication of medical research). Too bad
you
never learned the art/science. It's probably just too much for you to
handle. If we get back to your narrow world, what do you think about the
recent reclassification scheme of dendrobium orchids?


Reclassification of Dendrobium orchids? Time will tell. They are not the
only plant group to undergo a major overhaul in recent years and many more
large genera will surely follow.


How amazingly general of an answer! Is it possible that you don't know anything
about it and can't be bothered to look it up?

Sean



--
Visit my photolog page; http://members.aol.com/grommit383/myhomepage
Last updated 08-04-02 with 15 pictures of the Aztec Ruins.
Address mungled. To email, please spite my face.