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15-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as
it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity! The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components. The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet. My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own standard system? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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15-12-2007, 07:19 PM
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Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not
"work" it. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Ray B" wrote in message news:8QR8j.15034$D44.9246@trnddc04... I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity! The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components. The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet. My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own standard system? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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16-12-2007, 05:35 PM
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I dunno Ray. Do you really want to compete with Home Depot, Costco or
Lowes? They have larger warehouses than you do, no? And return desks/clerks. I was at HD looking at bathroom fixtures and got sidetracked by their r/o & filtration systems (just to see what's available these days.) The myriad of choices was astounding. I think information about choosing a system would be more helpful. Like: Do charcoal filters work? How big a molecule is actually filtered in those prefilter systems and could one get away with one of those instead of the actual r/o system? etc. K Barrett "Ray B" wrote in message news:OUU8j.261$ZA4.2@trnddc03... Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not "work" it. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Ray B" wrote in message news:8QR8j.15034$D44.9246@trnddc04... I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity! The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components. The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet. My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own standard system? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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16-12-2007, 09:10 PM
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I think at a minimum I'll go with replacement filters and membranes.
-- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "K Barrett" wrote in message . .. I dunno Ray. Do you really want to compete with Home Depot, Costco or Lowes? They have larger warehouses than you do, no? And return desks/clerks. I was at HD looking at bathroom fixtures and got sidetracked by their r/o & filtration systems (just to see what's available these days.) The myriad of choices was astounding. I think information about choosing a system would be more helpful. Like: Do charcoal filters work? How big a molecule is actually filtered in those prefilter systems and could one get away with one of those instead of the actual r/o system? etc. K Barrett "Ray B" wrote in message news:OUU8j.261$ZA4.2@trnddc03... Oops. That last paragraph was supposed to ask if it's "worth" it, not "work" it. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Ray B" wrote in message news:8QR8j.15034$D44.9246@trnddc04... I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity! The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components. The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet. My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own standard system? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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17-12-2007, 03:01 AM
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Ray,
There was the guy that used to frequent out ng, he was a RO water man. He also used to advertise in the Orchids Bulletin way back. He was very helpful with me but his name escapes me, he would definitely steer you right. Cheers Wendy "Ray B" wrote in message news:8QR8j.15034$D44.9246@trnddc04... I am thinking about adding RO systems and components to my product line, as it looks like I can get top quality components and still offer better prices than I typically see on the retail front. I believe I can offer 50 or 60 gpd systems for about the same price or better than most retailers offer 25 gpd systems. I probably wouldn't offer anything smaller, as the cost differential is minimal, larger-capacity systems refill quicker, and there's nothing that says you have to use the entire capacity! The concept is to offer replacement components, as well as complete systems, but it's the definition of "complete" that's the sticking point, as I don't want to have to carry too many components. The "standard" 4-stage unit on the market consists of a saddle valve to tap into an exiting water line, a sediment prefilter, carbon prefilter to remove chlorine and organic compounds, membrane with outlet flow restrictor, drain saddle for the flush water, auto shutoff valve, a 3- or 4-gallon pressure tank (that's the maximum amount of instantly-available water), and a faucet. Typically they are installed under a sink, with the faucet installed in one of the holes next to your normal faucet. My own system does not use the tank or faucet, as I store the water in a large tank instead. Do you think it's work including them in my own standard system? -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! |
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26-12-2007, 12:01 AM
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Wendy: That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health problems that he had. He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice. The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ |
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26-12-2007, 01:26 AM
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Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his name
mentioned. "Aaron Hicks" wrote in message ... Wendy: That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health problems that he had. He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice. The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ |
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26-12-2007, 11:30 AM
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Yeah, John was my "go-to guy" on water quality, as well.
He was always ready to share what he knew and find out what he didn't (a rare thing). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Wendy7" wrote in message ... Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his name mentioned. "Aaron Hicks" wrote in message ... Wendy: That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health problems that he had. He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice. The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ |
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27-12-2007, 03:40 AM
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I had no idea he passed away! I sad to hear that. We had him come and chat
at OrchidSafari once. He was always willing to help out & answer questions. K barrett "Ray B" wrote in message news:73qcj.15071$HQ6.8947@trndny01... Yeah, John was my "go-to guy" on water quality, as well. He was always ready to share what he knew and find out what he didn't (a rare thing). -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "Wendy7" wrote in message ... Aah! Thanks for the info Aaron albeit so sad & why I haven't seen his name mentioned. "Aaron Hicks" wrote in message ... Wendy: That was John Talpa, who was certified as a water specialist under what I think is the best water quality group for that sort of thing. John died a couple of years ago after a battle with cancer; he was a Vietnam war veteran, and thought it likely that his particular type of cancer was likely caused by Agent Orange exposure, along with some other health problems that he had. He was truly a nice guy who really knew his stuff when it came to water- no kidding around, and no babble. More importantly, he was also an orchid grower, so he was the "go to" guy when it came to water problems and orchids. I for one really miss him and his advice. The address in the header is bogus. Send no email there. -AJHicks Chandler, AZ |
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