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03-10-2007, 10:25 PM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1
tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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03-10-2007, 10:42 PM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
I buy more alcohol.
Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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04-10-2007, 01:09 AM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help
prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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04-10-2007, 03:20 AM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the
cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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#5
04-10-2007, 10:04 PM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Bag the alcohol?
keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:mdXMi.6226$Hb2.5170@trndny07... If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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05-10-2007, 12:06 AM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Yes - if the fungicidal action is what you're after. The cinnamaldehyde
extracted from the powder is a better fungicide than the alcohol, but THAT'S a better insecticide. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Bag the alcohol? keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:mdXMi.6226$Hb2.5170@trndny07... If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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05-10-2007, 01:40 AM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Sorry Ray i did not get bag the alcohol in the OP ? By this you mean 'don`t
use the alcohol' if i want a fungicide, yeh?how much cinnamon to water ratio? Is the alcohol -insecticide best sprayed neat? I have never heard the term to bag something before :-) that`s why i did not click . Cheers Ray wrote in message news:vtdNi.6351$DF2.2126@trndny09... Yes - if the fungicidal action is what you're after. The cinnamaldehyde extracted from the powder is a better fungicide than the alcohol, but THAT'S a better insecticide. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Bag the alcohol? keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:mdXMi.6226$Hb2.5170@trndny07... If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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#8
05-10-2007, 11:35 AM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Sorry. I should no better than to use slang in international conversations!
I usually make the alcohol extract, as the resultant is both a fungicide and insecticide, and yes, the alcohol can be applied neat to kill bugs. Diluting it is a waste. If making the water-based extract, I typically add about 30 ml of powder to a liter of boiling water, then let it steep at room temperature for several days before filtering the sediment. At that point, it should be concentrated enough that diluting 4:1 will likely still give you a strong enough fungicidal spray. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Sorry Ray i did not get bag the alcohol in the OP ? By this you mean 'don`t use the alcohol' if i want a fungicide, yeh?how much cinnamon to water ratio? Is the alcohol -insecticide best sprayed neat? I have never heard the term to bag something before :-) that`s why i did not click . Cheers Ray wrote in message news:vtdNi.6351$DF2.2126@trndny09... Yes - if the fungicidal action is what you're after. The cinnamaldehyde extracted from the powder is a better fungicide than the alcohol, but THAT'S a better insecticide. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Bag the alcohol? keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:mdXMi.6226$Hb2.5170@trndny07... If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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#9
05-10-2007, 07:12 PM
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Home remedy Q from FirstRays.
Thanks Ray!
Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:JznNi.34156$jC5.15298@trnddc04... Sorry. I should no better than to use slang in international conversations! I usually make the alcohol extract, as the resultant is both a fungicide and insecticide, and yes, the alcohol can be applied neat to kill bugs. Diluting it is a waste. If making the water-based extract, I typically add about 30 ml of powder to a liter of boiling water, then let it steep at room temperature for several days before filtering the sediment. At that point, it should be concentrated enough that diluting 4:1 will likely still give you a strong enough fungicidal spray. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Sorry Ray i did not get bag the alcohol in the OP ? By this you mean 'don`t use the alcohol' if i want a fungicide, yeh?how much cinnamon to water ratio? Is the alcohol -insecticide best sprayed neat? I have never heard the term to bag something before :-) that`s why i did not click . Cheers Ray wrote in message news:vtdNi.6351$DF2.2126@trndny09... Yes - if the fungicidal action is what you're after. The cinnamaldehyde extracted from the powder is a better fungicide than the alcohol, but THAT'S a better insecticide. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Bag the alcohol? keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:mdXMi.6226$Hb2.5170@trndny07... If mildew is your concern, bag the alcohol and just make up more of the cinnamon infusion in water. (I always use isopropyl alcohol, to answer that question.) -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Hi Ray, Now Autumn/winter is upon us i want to spray everything to help prevent mildew etc.I need about a 5 litre mix to cover my collection of plants.Alcohol? in what form is best~? Thanks Keith "Ray B" wrote in message news:a9TMi.5374$n92.3759@trnddc06... I buy more alcohol. Adding the infusion to the water dilutes both the alcohol and the cinnamon too much to be really effective. If your primary goal is a fungicide, boil a lot more cinnamon in water, then dilute that. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies. Books, Artwork, and lots of Free Info! "keith kent" wrote in message ... Most of the remedies are made with small quantities,ie 500ml alcohol +1 tablespoon of cinnimon.This isnt enough to treat alot of plants.I did the above then mixed it with 5 litres of water to spray all my plants.Less effective? Alot of alcohol in needed for larger treatments,so what do you do? Thanks Keith |
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