A little something for the kiddies, like trader4, who have their heads in
the sand, or elsewhere.....

EPA Won't Restrict Toxic Herbicide Atrazine, Despite Health Threat
White House documents obtained by NRDC reveal that industry influenced the
decision. The EPA has decided not to limit one of the nation's most widely
used weed-killers, a chemical that, according to several recent studies,
threatens human health and the environment. The October 2003 decision --
which the EPA was required to make under a court-approved consent decree
reached with NRDC in 2001 -- will allow Syngenta, the main manufacturer of
atrazine, and other companies to continue to sell the chemical in the United
States with no significant restrictions.

The rest:
http://www.nrdc.org/health/pesticides/natrazine.asp

Oh, wow imagine that! The govt allowed industry to "play a role in
shaping the EPA decision." I would have thought they would just take
input from guys like Doug Kanter, after all, he's quite an expert.
He's a real renaissance man who can tell everyone how to have a
beautiful lawn without any chemicals, calls lawn care professionals
thugs, and even has time to advocate poisoning neighbors pets and
making bigotted remarks about the handicapped. Why should anyone doubt
Doug? LOL

Good, I"m glad the government has allowed the continued use of atrazine.
Big Brother has taken too many pesticides off the shelf that were effective
and left us with pesticides which are ineffective except with multiple
applications instead of one or two around a home site. I wish they'd bring
back Dursban; it was great for treating large areas of unwanted bugs with a
single application..

On 28 Jun 2005 18:21:55 -0700, wrote:

Oh, wow imagine that! The govt allowed industry to "play a role in
shaping the EPA decision." I would have thought they would just take
input from guys like Doug Kanter, after all, he's quite an expert.
He's a real renaissance man who can tell everyone how to have a
beautiful lawn without any chemicals, calls lawn care professionals
thugs, and even has time to advocate poisoning neighbors pets and
making bigotted remarks about the handicapped. Why should anyone doubt
Doug? LOL


Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ!

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:30:34 GMT, "evolutionman 2004"
wrote:

Good, I"m glad the government has allowed the continued use of atrazine.
Big Brother has taken too many pesticides off the shelf that were effective
and left us with pesticides which are ineffective except with multiple
applications instead of one or two around a home site. I wish they'd bring
back Dursban; it was great for treating large areas of unwanted bugs with a
single application..



Nice to see evolution is taking us back to Neanderthals....

"Tom Jaszewski" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jun 2005 18:21:55 -0700, wrote:

Oh, wow imagine that! The govt allowed industry to "play a role in
shaping the EPA decision." I would have thought they would just take
input from guys like Doug Kanter, after all, he's quite an expert.
He's a real renaissance man who can tell everyone how to have a
beautiful lawn without any chemicals, calls lawn care professionals
thugs, and even has time to advocate poisoning neighbors pets and
making bigotted remarks about the handicapped. Why should anyone doubt
Doug? LOL


Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ!

Actually, I *did* post the article. But, trader4 is young, and has missed 40
years worth of chemical industry antics. He doesn't understand how they
operate. Not only that, but he doesn't understand how legislation (and
legislators) are manipulated by the industries which are affected by
potential new laws.

"Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ! "

Now that Kanter has posted that he did in fact make the post, so who's
the ignorant one now, Putz?

wrote in message
oups.com...
"Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ! "

Now that Kanter has posted that he did in fact make the post, so who's
the ignorant one now, Putz?


Let's see who's thinking clearly today. Bless the assembled masses with your
conclusions from the following:

If a chemical company says they used rats to test for safety, they consider
the results valid.

If someone else uses rats, and finds the exact same chemical to be unsafe,
the chemical company says "That's not valid because rats respond differently
than humans".

This has been going on for 4 decades. What do you make of this riddle?

wrote:
"Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ! "

Now that Kanter has posted that he did in fact make the post, so who's
the ignorant one now, Putz?


Well we know for sure Kanter is. Looks ike he has company.

On 30 Jun 2005 08:10:02 -0700, wrote:

"Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ! "

Now that Kanter has posted that he did in fact make the post, so who's
the ignorant one now, Putz?
I haven't read anything like an admission...care to repost with the
complete header?

Tom Jaszewski wrote:
On 30 Jun 2005 08:10:02 -0700, wrote:

"Perhaps you could display a little more than ignorance of Usenet and
check some of the postings from Kanter. Just an ounce of skill and
you'd find he's being spoofed...PUTZ! "

Now that Kanter has posted that he did in fact make the post, so who's
the ignorant one now, Putz?

I haven't read anything like an admission...care to repost with the
complete header?

Go hump a tree stump, Tom.

"I haven't read anything like an admission...care to repost with the
complete header? "

Why don't you learn to use the internet like the rest of us, instead of
expecting someone else to do it for you. Ever hear of Google? It's
not hard to find if you look instead of shooting off your mouth.

Some interesting things...

EPA sued for backroom deals with chemical production companies.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/Poli...sued022305.cfm

"The herbicide atrazine, is one of the most common contaminants
of ground and surface waters..." snip.../snip "Atrazine induces
aromatase and results in elevated estrogens..." snip.../snip
"...males produce ovaries, eggs and become vitellogenic..."
http://www.dioxin2003.org/Plenary.htm
If that happens, what about going for a swim in the lake or being
splashed by a passing car?

Wikipedia indicates that Ronald Reagan was urged by George Bush
and Donald Rumsfeld to approve of the commercial production of a
biochemical weapon known as "aspartame". The approval meant
Ronald Reagan FIRED a staunch FDA opponent. Now the man
that runs the FDA will approve putting cyanide into food if Bush OR
Donald OR Conda OR Dick Cheney has a financial interest in the
production of such foods...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame
Of aspartame...

"Initial safety testing suggested that aspartame might cause brain
tumors in rats;"

"In 1981, U.S. President Ronald Reagan and Donald Rumsfeld
(a CEO of G.D. Searle & Company and friend of Bush) fired
the old FDA Commissioner, and hired a new head of the FDA :
Arthur Hull Hayes, a defense department contractor."

"One of the many hypotheses about the causes of Gulf war
syndrome is that soldiers, after drinking gallons of soft drinks
containing aspartame in the extreme heat, accumulated toxic
doses of methanol, formaldehyde, diketopiperazine and
formic acid from the breakdown of the sweetener into its
component molecules."

"The Pentagon once listed aspartame in an inventory of
prospective biochemical warfare weapons submitted to
Congress."

paraphrase
Donald Rumsfeld was a CEO of G.D. Searle & Company,
the manufacturer of "aspartame", at the time.
/paraphrase

Everyone KNOWS Ronald was the stooge for George Bush Sr
and Donald Rumsfeld. All the real problems of the Ronald Reagan
term resulted from George Bush Sr and Donald Rumsfeld.

George Jr is very much like his father with a bunch of stooges
doing whatever he tells them to do. They KNOW they will be
FIRED if they refuse to follow his orders. Biggest stooge in point,
Condaleezza Rice... she ALWAYS smiles happily following
Bush whereever he walks. SHE ALWAYS does everything
George tells her. Every speech she provides is a well rehearsed
speech provided and approved by the George Bush speech
guppies.

I met one of the solders that returned from the first Gulf War.
His mind was messed up, his wife blamed Bush, and I didn't
know what to think about it. Both the husband and the wife
initially thought that radioactive shells used in the initial Gulf
War were to blame. The patent expired on "aspartame" since
then. Donald Rumsfeld became a very rich man because he
and George FIRED the only opponent to putting the chemical
into food. George and Donald continue to HIDE the facts
about "aspartame" problem and the Gulf War Syndrome. The
soldier that I met, died a year after I met him, leaving behind a
wife and children.

The United States Government run by George Bush, burns
forests down because George says it's dry timber waiting for
a fire to start and a fire started in 2000 in Oregon (deliberately
set on fire) while George was making speaches about how
forests are waiting to burn down. Coincidence?

--
Jim Carlock
Please post replies to newsgroup.

Clearly you have a political agenda. Why bring these wild conspiracy
theories about aspartame and gulf war syndrome to the lawn/garden
newsgroup? Perhaps cause it's the only place left that doesn't know
you;'re a kook?

wrote in message
ups.com...
Clearly you have a political agenda. Why bring these wild conspiracy
theories about aspartame and gulf war syndrome to the lawn/garden
newsgroup? Perhaps cause it's the only place left that doesn't know
you;'re a kook?


Why do you have blind faith in chemical companies?