On Sep 22, 1:19 pm, (Ralph) wrote:
CanopyCo wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:24 pm, (Ralph) wrote:
(Skip ahead to "The Question Is:" if you want to skip the survival
commentary and get to the gardening question.)

The Question Is......
The Question Is......
The Question Is......

How much soil or buckets of soil would it take to sustain one person,
multipled by 2 in order to preserve enough to get through
the winter, but grown in a greenhouse to extend the season?

Thanks.

btw, can anybody recommend a good quality greenhouse fabric, the stuff
that covers a greenhouse to let light in, but not water and lasts years?

You have to remember that all the dust that is blowing around is also
radioactive.
That will contaminate anything that is not dust proof.

According to Cresson Kearny (in his videos I think) the biggest chunks
are the most dangerous because they hit the ground first, but the finest
dust takes the longest to reach the ground, up to a year. Therefore, the
radioactive dust will be the last to reach the ground and be very widely
dispersed.


Isn't anything that is in the blast zone now radioactive once the bomb
hits?
The dust from the blasted building would float around right off.
The dust from crushed up bigger chunks that you mentioned would also
be there.

I would think it would be easier and more productive to just scrape
off the top layer of a grader plot and then erect the green house over
that, instead of looking for a proper slab and removing that.

Less labor intensive, but more contaminated and the soil less
productive.



Possibly.
You would have to scrape down deep enough to get it all, just as you
would with the slab.
There is a bigger possibility of running out of top soil first with
the no slab method.
The no slab method has the advantage of better location.
It can be the best place for a garden instead of just where the
parking lot once was.

On Sep 22, 4:36*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:19:42 -0700, (Ralph) wrote:
CanopyCo wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:24 pm, (Ralph) wrote:
(Skip ahead to "The Question Is:" if you want to skip the survival
commentary and get to the gardening question.)

The Question Is......
The Question Is......
The Question Is......

How much soil or buckets of soil would it take to sustain one person,
multipled by 2 in order to preserve enough to get through
the winter, but grown in a greenhouse to extend the season?

Thanks.

btw, can anybody recommend a good quality greenhouse fabric, the stuff
that covers a greenhouse to let light in, but not water and lasts years?

You have to remember that all the dust that is blowing around is also
radioactive.
That will contaminate anything that is not dust proof.

According to Cresson Kearny (in his videos I think) the biggest chunks
are the most dangerous because they hit the ground first, but the finest
dust takes the longest to reach the ground, up to a year. Therefore, the
radioactive dust will be the last to reach the ground and be very widely
dispersed.

I would think it would be easier and more productive to just scrape
off the top layer of a grader plot and then erect the green house over
that, instead of looking for a proper slab and removing that.

Less labor intensive, but more contaminated and the soil less
productive.

One only needs to remove the first inch or two.



Is that all!!!
I have 3 feet of black top soil on my land.
My dads place (the family homestead) only has about a foot.

If a person picked a place out early and kept dumping compost on it
then it would be thick enough to work when the time came.

Might look at forest land too, as the leaf litter would make it pretty
fertile.

some interesting comments here...

CanopyCo wrote:

On Sep 22, 1:19 pm, (Ralph) wrote:
According to Cresson Kearny (in his videos I think) the biggest chunks
are the most dangerous because they hit the ground first, but the finest
dust takes the longest to reach the ground, up to a year. Therefore, the
radioactive dust will be the last to reach the ground and be very widely
dispersed.


Isn't anything that is in the blast zone now radioactive once the bomb
hits?
The dust from the blasted building would float around right off.
The dust from crushed up bigger chunks that you mentioned would also
be there.

It's the type of nuke and what the fireball hits. The two that were
dropped on Japan were air bursts, but inefficient nukes. They generated
some fallout which would also be true of a nuke built by terrorists or a
rogue nation and be few in number, but nukes built by a super-power
would be much more efficient, but in greater numbers.

Air bursts are detonated at about 3,000 feet for maximum destruction to
surface structures. The effect is called a Mach-Y stem in which initial
and reflected blast waves are combined at ground level. Since the
fireball doesn't touch buildings or the ground, very little radioactive
fallout is produced.

But in a ground burst, detonated at ground level for use against
hardened military targest, the nuclear fireball vaporizes tons of earth
which is ejected into the atmosphere. This is the radioactive fallout to
be worried about.