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hydrangea question
My hydrangea bush/plant I get big 6" diameter blooms, then the petals turn
brownish after a few days. Some new blooms form but not as many. I fertilize with brand name food for hydrangeas as directed. Should I prune off the faded blooms? The total plant is about 24" high and the blooms are heavy and tend to fall over so I support with garden type poles. We have had a wet summer here and I do keep the ground watered in between rains. Suggestions please, just not as big and colorful as I expected. This is the 4th season for this hydrangea. please and thank you. |
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FireBrick wrote:
My hydrangea bush/plant [....] Should I prune off the faded blooms? yes. |
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Jim said:
FireBrick wrote: My hydrangea bush/plant [....] Should I prune off the faded blooms? yes. no. -- Eggs Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to edge his car onto a freeway. |
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Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Jim said: FireBrick wrote: My hydrangea bush/plant [....] Should I prune off the faded blooms? yes. no. http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...mmer_hydrangea Pruning To encourage rebloom, remove spent flowers. Because Endless Summer blooms on new growth, you don't have to wait until the next season to see armfuls of new blooms. http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...mmer_hydrangea and another tip for you. if you get to much nitrogen on and or in the hydrangea you'll reduce the quality of the flowers and or blooms. |
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Jim said:
Eggs Zachtly wrote: Jim said: FireBrick wrote: My hydrangea bush/plant [....] Should I prune off the faded blooms? yes. no. http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...mmer_hydrangea Pruning To encourage rebloom, remove spent flowers. Because Endless Summer blooms on new growth, you don't have to wait until the next season to see armfuls of new blooms. http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...mmer_hydrangea and another tip for you. if you get to much nitrogen on and or in the hydrangea you'll reduce the quality of the flowers and or blooms. Sorry, I hadn't noticed that the OP stated the type of hydrangea. You're assuming they are 'Endless Summer', in which case you'd be quite correct in your advice. There are other types that fit the very vague description given, that are *not* everblooming. Unless they know what type of hydrangea they have, I'd say, "don't deadhead". Besides (and also determined by the variety), mid-August may be getting a little late for pruning. Next years buds may be/have forming/formed. JMO. =) I prefer knowing exactly what specific plant I'm dealing with, before I "try something new" with it. That's prolly just me. =) Cheers, -- Eggs Can atheists get insurance for acts of God? |
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"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Unless they know what type of hydrangea they have, I'd say, "don't deadhead". Besides (and also determined by the variety), mid-August may be getting a little late for pruning. Next years buds may be/have forming/formed. JMO. =) I prefer knowing exactly what specific plant I'm dealing with, before I "try something new" with it. That's prolly just me. =) Cheers, -- Eggs Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. What buds are you talking about? |
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Chas Hurst wrote:
[....] Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. What buds are you talking about? yes, species abound for the many different variations and hybrid hydrangeas available in today's world where science has indeed advanced man's understanding for the enjoyable art of horticulture. I could have asked for the specific variety being tended by the OP. however I made the choice not to proceed down that particular avenue. plants for the most part are much the same as humans. feed 'em, love 'em, protect them from harsh unsustaining environments and they do well. for a better understanding let us take a look at what happens when human extremities become subject to severe frost bit. the human tissue of the immediate effected area dies and begins to spread death and infection up the effected extremity, be it a hand or a foot. in order to stop this spread the dead tissue must be removed and the necessary amputation requires that some of the adjacent unaffected tissue be removed as well so as to provide an appropriate means for proper healing. when flowers reach the end of their life cycle during the flowering season for any particular flowering plant, they begin to die and as a result of their death they have an adverse action on the plant they are still attached to. for reasons I'll not go into here, the plant actually expends some of its useful energy attempting to rescue the naturally dying flower. removing this dying flower with the proper cut at the proper angle at the proper time averts the wasted energy expended by the plant and allows the plant to focus its energy on producing new life in new blooms. knowing and understanding this practice of pruning actually enhances the overall health and appearance of the flowering plant. as for why I mentioned the variety at: http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...ts/theoriginal they are my favorite, my clients love them and they do well here in my zone. the OP now has the option of choosing to investigate so as to determine if the Endless Summer® variety is suitable for their zone. oh, and you do too. have a nice day. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... Chas Hurst wrote: [....] Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. What buds are you talking about? yes, species abound for the many different variations and hybrid hydrangeas available in today's world where science has indeed advanced man's understanding for the enjoyable art of horticulture. I could have asked for the specific variety being tended by the OP. however I made the choice not to proceed down that particular avenue. plants for the most part are much the same as humans. feed 'em, love 'em, protect them from harsh unsustaining environments and they do well. for a better understanding let us take a look at what happens when human extremities become subject to severe frost bit. the human tissue of the immediate effected area dies and begins to spread death and infection up the effected extremity, be it a hand or a foot. in order to stop this spread the dead tissue must be removed and the necessary amputation requires that some of the adjacent unaffected tissue be removed as well so as to provide an appropriate means for proper healing. when flowers reach the end of their life cycle during the flowering season for any particular flowering plant, they begin to die and as a result of their death they have an adverse action on the plant they are still attached to. for reasons I'll not go into here, the plant actually expends some of its useful energy attempting to rescue the naturally dying flower. removing this dying flower with the proper cut at the proper angle at the proper time averts the wasted energy expended by the plant and allows the plant to focus its energy on producing new life in new blooms. knowing and understanding this practice of pruning actually enhances the overall health and appearance of the flowering plant. as for why I mentioned the variety at: http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...ts/theoriginal they are my favorite, my clients love them and they do well here in my zone. the OP now has the option of choosing to investigate so as to determine if the Endless Summer® variety is suitable for their zone. oh, and you do too. have a nice day. I've had this particular Hydrangea for a number of years. I have no need to investigate anything. You sir, appear to be a quack. |
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Chas Hurst said:
"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Unless they know what type of hydrangea they have, I'd say, "don't deadhead". Besides (and also determined by the variety), mid-August may be getting a little late for pruning. Next years buds may be/have forming/formed. JMO. =) I prefer knowing exactly what specific plant I'm dealing with, before I "try something new" with it. That's prolly just me. =) Cheers, -- Eggs Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? What bad advice? I advised to err on the side of caution. My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. And, you assume that /all/ hydrangea do the same thing? Fool. What buds are you talking about? If a species flowers on old-wood, it forms those buds this season. If you remove those buds, there'll be no flowers next season. Please do a little research before posting about things you obviously know little about. -- Eggs A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. |
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Jim said:
Chas Hurst wrote: [....] Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. What buds are you talking about? yes, species abound for the many different variations and hybrid hydrangeas available in today's world where science has indeed advanced man's understanding for the enjoyable art of horticulture. I could have asked for the specific variety being tended by the OP. however I made the choice not to proceed down that particular avenue. plants for the most part are much the same as humans. feed 'em, love 'em, protect them from harsh unsustaining environments and they do well. for a better understanding let us take a look at what happens when human extremities become subject to severe frost bit. the human tissue of the immediate effected area dies and begins to spread death and infection up the effected extremity, be it a hand or a foot. in order to stop this spread the dead tissue must be removed and the necessary amputation requires that some of the adjacent unaffected tissue be removed as well so as to provide an appropriate means for proper healing. We won't grow a new hand/foot/etc the next year, tho. =) when flowers reach the end of their life cycle during the flowering season for any particular flowering plant, they begin to die and as a result of their death they have an adverse action on the plant they are still attached to. for reasons I'll not go into here, the plant actually expends some of its useful energy attempting to rescue the naturally dying flower. removing this dying flower with the proper cut at the proper angle at the proper time averts the wasted energy expended by the plant and allows the plant to focus its energy on producing new life in new blooms. knowing and understanding this practice of pruning actually enhances the overall health and appearance of the flowering plant. "Appearance" can be subjective. Many species of plant provide "winter interest" in their dead blooms. =) as for why I mentioned the variety at: http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...ts/theoriginal they are my favorite, my clients love them and they do well here in my zone. I figured as much. They're one of the most common varieties. And, you may be correct. As I said, though, with the vague description given (and nothing of the locale), it could be another of the macrophyllas. My favorites are the paniculatas. =) the OP now has the option of choosing to investigate so as to determine if the Endless Summer® variety is suitable for their zone. oh, and you do too. have a nice day. Ignore him, Jim. He's been in my k/f for a long time now. I couldn't understand why there was a skip in my scored replies. I expected a reply from you, almost identical to the one you made heh, but couldn't understand why my scoring was showing it as a reply to a reply (that I never saw). Viewing the entire thread provided the answer. Hope your summer's going well. It's been the coolest August I can remember, here. It /should/ be mid to upper 90's (and 100's) here, with lows in the 70's and 80's. We've had highs in the low 80's, and lows in the 50's and 60's. Some of my tropicals are complaining mildly, but everything else is jammin'. =) You won't get any complaints from me, either. lol Cheers, -- Eggs The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. |
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"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Chas Hurst said: "Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message ... Unless they know what type of hydrangea they have, I'd say, "don't deadhead". Besides (and also determined by the variety), mid-August may be getting a little late for pruning. Next years buds may be/have forming/formed. JMO. =) I prefer knowing exactly what specific plant I'm dealing with, before I "try something new" with it. That's prolly just me. =) Cheers, -- Eggs Why didn't you ask of the species before giving bad advice? What bad advice? I advised to err on the side of caution. My hydrangeas die off to the ground in winter. And, you assume that /all/ hydrangea do the same thing? Fool. What buds are you talking about? If a species flowers on old-wood, it forms those buds this season. If you remove those buds, there'll be no flowers next season. Please do a little research before posting about things you obviously know little about. -- Eggs My hydrangea dies to the ground in winter. That's all I posted. Are you claiming it doesn't? Or do you merely like to read what you type. |
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Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Jim said: [....] Why [....] yes, species abound for the many different variations and hybrid hydrangeas available in today's world where science has indeed advanced man's understanding for the enjoyable art of horticulture. I could have asked for the specific variety being tended by the OP. however I made the choice not to proceed down that particular avenue. plants for the most part are much the same as humans. feed 'em, love 'em, protect them from harsh unsustaining environments and they do well. for a better understanding let us take a look at what happens when human extremities become subject to severe frost bit. the human tissue of the immediate effected area dies and begins to spread death and infection up the effected extremity, be it a hand or a foot. in order to stop this spread the dead tissue must be removed and the necessary amputation requires that some of the adjacent unaffected tissue be removed as well so as to provide an appropriate means for proper healing. We won't grow a new hand/foot/etc the next year, tho. =) score one for the plant. when flowers reach the end of their life cycle during the flowering season for any particular flowering plant, they begin to die and as a result of their death they have an adverse action on the plant they are still attached to. for reasons I'll not go into here, the plant actually expends some of its useful energy attempting to rescue the naturally dying flower. removing this dying flower with the proper cut at the proper angle at the proper time averts the wasted energy expended by the plant and allows the plant to focus its energy on producing new life in new blooms. knowing and understanding this practice of pruning actually enhances the overall health and appearance of the flowering plant. "Appearance" can be subjective. and it's a lot like offering a cup of coffee to someone and when they accept, the next question should be, how do you take yours. Many species of plant provide "winter interest" in their dead blooms. =) yes. and those are the ones my clients keep asking me the same question over and over, goes like this. "why have you not removed that dead dying ugly flower?" these plant types are now discussed and considered during the design phase of new jobs thus eliminating the conflict at a latter time. as for why I mentioned the variety at: http://endlesssummerblooms.com/consu...ts/theoriginal they are my favorite, my clients love them and they do well here in my zone. I figured as much. They're one of the most common varieties. And, you may be correct. As I said, though, with the vague description given (and nothing of the locale), it could be another of the macrophyllas. My favorites are the paniculatas. =) http://www.hydrangeashydrangeas.com/paniculata.html a bit more tolerant of cooler climates and the tree like bush has a tolerance for pruning. "one can prune them at any time except when they begin forming bloom heads in the summer." again it's all about knowing when and how. the OP now has the option of choosing to investigate so as to determine if the Endless Summer® variety is suitable for their zone. oh, and you do too. have a nice day. Ignore him, Jim. He's been in my k/f for a long time now. I couldn't understand why there was a skip in my scored replies. I expected a reply from you, almost identical to the one you made heh, but couldn't understand why my scoring was showing it as a reply to a reply (that I never saw). Viewing the entire thread provided the answer. currently as I type our OP has yet to return to the thread, or at least my news feed has not shown any response from FireBrick. after taking a look at the the posting IP of FireBrick, the variety of hydrangea you mentioned would most likely be a good choice for the location of the OP. to many people overlook climate considerations when making the choice of variety. a consideration soybean Farmers will do well to understand. for example, the northern bean Farmer needs a variety capable of reaching early maturity, group 4 would be their best choice. while for my location a group 6 or group 7 will both do well. in my case planting separate fields of the two different varieties will allow me a longer idea harvest window verses having the entire crop mature all at once. Hope your summer's going well. It's been the coolest August I can remember, here. It /should/ be mid to upper 90's (and 100's) here, with lows in the 70's and 80's. We've had highs in the low 80's, and lows in the 50's and 60's. Some of my tropicals are complaining mildly, but everything else is jammin'. =) You won't get any complaints from me, either. lol back in June we had a totally unreal heat wave lasting 7 or 8 days where each day the temps exceeded 100F. as dry as it was back then I thought the bean crop was going to be toast. ended up working to a great advantage by causing the roots to go deep searching for moisture. with the August rains I now have bean plants doing exceedingly or stunningly well. back in the year 2006 I planted several acres of beans to early and the cool nights put a stunt on them and left them complaining for the remainder of the season. summer so far has been good to me. best 2U, Jim The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. lol |
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