the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can mow
around them?

CathyLee

YES if you put it up against the bark it will kill most trees. What kind
of tree and how old.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids

CathyLee said:

the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can mow
around them?


Yes.

--

Eggs

-Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.

"CathyLee" wrote in message
news:s%sRi.19609$G25.4593@edtnps89...
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I
can mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't know what part of the country you are in, but I'd guess maybe
the trees
are Arizona Ash which are famous for putting roots out at grpund
level.

If they are Ash trees, they are pretty much worthless and you may
want to consider taking them out and putting in a better tree.

At any rate, if the tree is worth saving, put no more than a couple
inches of dirt around it. Any more will eventually kill the tree.

Bob-tx

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee



Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

Clark...
--
Why me?

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where the
oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are located. If
you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a few inches),
you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.

Dude I was joking, I have not seen a reply so I assumed the OP was done with
the post.
besides it's like a graveyard in here lately, someone had to post something.
by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?


Clark...
--
Why me?

Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where the
oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are located. If you put
them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a few inches), you're depriving
the tree of one, or even all of them.

--

Eggs

Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery?

Clark... said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where the
oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are located. If
you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a few inches),
you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.

Dude I was joking,

An emoticon, or even stating that you were joking, would have gone a long
way in conveying that. =) (Especially, considering all of replies you
referenced gave basically the same info.)

My apologies if you chuckled as you formatted your reply. I had my speakers
turned down, and didn't hear it. =P

I have not seen a reply so I assumed the OP was done with the post.

Could have been a drive-by, sure. Could have also been someone that has
other priorities ATM.

besides it's like a graveyard in here lately, someone had to post something.

Everyone is outside, working in their yards/gardens, and enjoying the nice
change in the weather. Why aren't you? =P

by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?

Not /all/ trees expose their roots, naturally. Maples are notorious for it.
I have a Silver Maple in my front yard, that has several roots that have
broken the surface of the soil. Those roots are now calloused, to the point
of becoming bark-like. Were I to cover them with soil, they would most
likely rot, and I'd lose a beautiful tree long before I should. It was here
long before I arrived (If I had to guess, I'd venture it was at least 50
years old), and I hope it's here long after I'm gone. =)

If yours have no exposed roots because /you/ covered them, the tree will
not live as long as it would were they left exposed. It probably won't die
in a year, or maybe even ten years, but it will surely die sooner than it
should.

Does that eggsplain "TF" to your "W"? =)

--
Eggs

-If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.

Clark... wrote:
CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee



Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

Clark...

Why in the hell do you think the trees put roots at or above ground
level? So they can breathe and absorb nutrients. IT WILL EVENTUALLY KILL
THE TREE!
This is an excerpt from:
http://extension.missouri.edu/explor...ulture0009.htm

First, the reason why the roots are growing on the surface is that the
soil is shallow and there is no way for the roots to go but up, when
they increase in diameter. Maples are the most common culprits, but many
tree species will do the same thing. People often ask whether the roots
can simply be cut off near the trunk or whether they can be covered by
soil to allow mowing under the tree. My answer is that neither of these
options is good for the tree. Cutting off a main root will cause serious
stress, since it may remove up to 30 or 40 percent of the root system
immediately. Covering the roots with more than 3 or 4 inches of top soil
may suffocate the roots near the surface or, if the new soil has a high
clay content it may suffocate cells in the bark of the roots, leading to
root rot problems. Also, this is a temporary fix, since the roots will
continue to increase in diameter and eventually push their way to the
surface again through the added soil.

So, what to do. In my opinion, the answer is to stop fighting mother
nature. Nobody mows under trees in the woods. I recommend mulching the
entire area under the tree and planting shade tolerant perennials such
as Epimedium, Pulmonaria, Ferns and Hostas in pockets of soil between
the roots. A limited amount of soil can be brought in, but not more than
a few inches in depth. Ground covers such as English ivy can also be
used to reduce maintenance requirements. Plants under the tree canopy
will have to be watered frequently due to competition from tree roots,
but in the end, the area will have a nice, woodsy feel to it. And, there
will be less lawn to mow.

Chris Starbuck
State Extension Specialist
Woody Ornamentals

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I
can mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where
the oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are
located. If you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a
few inches), you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.

Dude I was joking,

An emoticon, or even stating that you were joking, would have gone a
long way in conveying that. =) (Especially, considering all of
replies you referenced gave basically the same info.)

*My fault*.
I have a nasty habit of telling a joke or making up a ridiculous story and
telling it with a totaly straight face, I guess it happens in this means of
cominicay also.
Hell I told a story about a 10" pine stick once... Oh wait that ridiculous
story is true :-(

My apologies if you chuckled as you formatted your reply. I had my
speakers turned down, and didn't hear it. =P

I have not seen a reply so I assumed the OP was done with the post.

Could have been a drive-by, sure. Could have also been someone that
has other priorities ATM.

besides it's like a graveyard in here lately, someone had to post
something.

Everyone is outside, working in their yards/gardens, and enjoying the
nice change in the weather. Why aren't you? =P

Because Kathy is! :-) Hence the reason I bought the lawntractor I did, she
was out all day Sunday towing along the lawnsweeper and mowing.
(while I did important things like painting and staining and drinking a
couple of beers)
did you know it takes 4 hours to paint a door? chuckle.....

by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?

Not /all/ trees expose their roots, naturally. Maples are notorious
for it. I have a Silver Maple in my front yard, that has several
roots that have broken the surface of the soil. Those roots are now
calloused, to the point of becoming bark-like. Were I to cover them
with soil, they would most likely rot, and I'd lose a beautiful tree
long before I should. It was here long before I arrived (If I had to
guess, I'd venture it was at least 50 years old), and I hope it's
here long after I'm gone. =)

If yours have no exposed roots because /you/ covered them, the tree
will not live as long as it would were they left exposed. It probably
won't die in a year, or maybe even ten years, but it will surely die
sooner than it should.

Does that eggsplain "TF" to your "W"? =)
It does explain it, what a slow way to kill a tree!!!!
My chainsaw takes them down much faster than burying the roots!!!!!
Clark...


--
Don't you have Google in your part of the world?

wrote:
Clark... wrote:
CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee



Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

Clark...

Why in the hell do you think the trees put roots at or above ground
level? So they can breathe and absorb nutrients. IT WILL EVENTUALLY
KILL THE TREE!
This is an excerpt from:
http://extension.missouri.edu/explor...ulture0009.htm

Should I stop spraying them with Brush-B-Gone too??
I'm not much of a tree lover anyway, but I do like our liriodendron
tulipifera (tulip tree) I understand they are pretty rare in my area (I
don't know).
Nevermind I've decided I do like trees, as they burn nice in my fireplace.
;-)



First, the reason why the roots are growing on the surface is that the
soil is shallow and there is no way for the roots to go but up, when
they increase in diameter. Maples are the most common culprits, but
many tree species will do the same thing. People often ask whether
the roots can simply be cut off near the trunk or whether they can be
covered by soil to allow mowing under the tree. My answer is that
neither of these options is good for the tree. Cutting off a main
root will cause serious stress, since it may remove up to 30 or 40
percent of the root system immediately. Covering the roots with more
than 3 or 4 inches of top soil may suffocate the roots near the
surface or, if the new soil has a high clay content it may suffocate
cells in the bark of the roots, leading to root rot problems. Also,
this is a temporary fix, since the roots will continue to increase in
diameter and eventually push their way to the surface again through
the added soil.
So, what to do. In my opinion, the answer is to stop fighting mother
nature. Nobody mows under trees in the woods. I recommend mulching the
entire area under the tree and planting shade tolerant perennials such
as Epimedium, Pulmonaria, Ferns and Hostas in pockets of soil between
the roots. A limited amount of soil can be brought in, but not more
than a few inches in depth. Ground covers such as English ivy can
also be used to reduce maintenance requirements. Plants under the
tree canopy will have to be watered frequently due to competition
from tree roots, but in the end, the area will have a nice, woodsy
feel to it. And, there will be less lawn to mow.

Chris Starbuck
State Extension Specialist
Woody Ornamentals

Clark...
--
Don't you have Google in your part of the world?

Clark... wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I
can mow around them?

CathyLee

Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where
the oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are
located. If you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a
few inches), you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.

Dude I was joking,

An emoticon, or even stating that you were joking, would have gone a
long way in conveying that. =) (Especially, considering all of
replies you referenced gave basically the same info.)

*My fault*.
I have a nasty habit of telling a joke or making up a ridiculous
story and telling it with a totaly straight face, I guess it happens
in this means of cominicay also.


cominicay??? OK I'm making up words too,
(this means of communication)
In my defense it was 6:26 am at the time, and spell check somehow missed it.
Doh!!!



Hell I told a story about a 10" pine stick once... Oh wait that
ridiculous story is true :-(

My apologies if you chuckled as you formatted your reply. I had my
speakers turned down, and didn't hear it. =P

I have not seen a reply so I assumed the OP was done with the post.

Could have been a drive-by, sure. Could have also been someone that
has other priorities ATM.

besides it's like a graveyard in here lately, someone had to post
something.

Everyone is outside, working in their yards/gardens, and enjoying the
nice change in the weather. Why aren't you? =P

Because Kathy is! :-) Hence the reason I bought the lawntractor I
did, she was out all day Sunday towing along the lawnsweeper and
mowing. (while I did important things like painting and staining and
drinking a couple of beers)
did you know it takes 4 hours to paint a door? chuckle.....

by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?

Not /all/ trees expose their roots, naturally. Maples are notorious
for it. I have a Silver Maple in my front yard, that has several
roots that have broken the surface of the soil. Those roots are now
calloused, to the point of becoming bark-like. Were I to cover them
with soil, they would most likely rot, and I'd lose a beautiful tree
long before I should. It was here long before I arrived (If I had to
guess, I'd venture it was at least 50 years old), and I hope it's
here long after I'm gone. =)

If yours have no exposed roots because /you/ covered them, the tree
will not live as long as it would were they left exposed. It probably
won't die in a year, or maybe even ten years, but it will surely die
sooner than it should.

Does that eggsplain "TF" to your "W"? =)
It does explain it, what a slow way to kill a tree!!!!
My chainsaw takes them down much faster than burying the roots!!!!!
Clark...

--
Don't you have Google in your part of the world?

"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
YES if you put it up against the bark it will kill most trees. What kind
of tree and how old.

Can you provide any good documentation of that? I have a neighbor who added up
to 2 feet of soil around the trunk of two poplar trees on my side of his yard. I
tried to explain it would kill the trees, and he said "my sources say it is no
problem". I'd sure like to get better data.

Bob

"Bob F" wrote:
"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
YES if you put it up against the bark it will kill most trees. What
kind of tree and how old.

Can you provide any good documentation of that? I have a neighbor who
added up to 2 feet of soil around the trunk of two poplar trees on my
side of his yard. I tried to explain it would kill the trees, and he said
"my sources say it is no problem". I'd sure like to get better data.

Bob

I'd rather cut down those poplar's, sometimes they will make a divit when
they fall on their own.

On Oct 19, 5:52 am, "Clark..." wrote:


Should I stop spraying them with Brush-B-Gone too??
I'm not much of a tree lover anyway, but I do like our liriodendron
tulipifera (tulip tree) I understand they are pretty rare in my area (I
don't know).
Nevermind I've decided I do like trees, as they burn nice in my fireplace.
;-)


Hey, most trees I've planted in my yard have become firewood sometime
in it's life. If they develop undesireable traits, they're gone &
replaced. Most recent was a 40yo silver maple that wouldn't keep it's
roots under the soil. :)
Anyone know if sawtooth oaks have any bad habits before I let it get
big?

Red