I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


Thanks

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ME said:

I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


vicegrips?

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Eggs

-Opportunities always look bigger going than coming.

"ME" wrote in message
...
I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


Thanks


There is a difference between 6 point and 12 point sockets.

I wouldn't hesitate to put a pipe wrench on it. Plugs are cheap to replace.

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
ME said:

I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


vicegrips?



Are they handcuffs for prostitutes? :-)



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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

ME said:

I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


vicegrips?

be SURE to set the caming action on the vice grips as
tight as you can. in the past, I've used a C-clamp to
set the vice grips.

I bet you got a cast aluminum engine block with a steel
drain plug. if so then there is a really good possibility
seizure has occurred. in this case it's not just stuck but
rather the two different metals have bonded to one another
due to their different temperature coefficients defining
how metals expand and contract when repeatedly heated and
cooled. under these circumstances it's not uncommon for the
female threads in the aluminum engine block to break after
sufficient force has been applied and thus remain attached
to the steel drain plug. if the threads do break simply
drill and re-tap the hole to the next larger size. before
installing the new drain plug apply a product called Never
Seize, a compound designed to compensate for the two different
metal thermal coefficients.


have fun in the shop.

hi Eggs.

Jim

run the engine till warm or hot and then try again

"ME" wrote in message
...
I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


Thanks

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

ME wrote:
I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?

I would forget about it and try again next Fall. I haven't changed my
oil in 17 years and it works fine.

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:44:35 -0400, Jim wrote:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:

ME said:

I have a Murray 17.5 hp Garden Tractor. I just went to change the oil
prior to using it, The plug will not come out for anything.
The correct size socket just strips it...
This sucks.
Would anyone have a solution ?


vicegrips?

be SURE to set the caming action on the vice grips as
tight as you can. in the past, I've used a C-clamp to
set the vice grips.

I bet you got a cast aluminum engine block with a steel
drain plug. if so then there is a really good possibility
seizure has occurred. in this case it's not just stuck but
rather the two different metals have bonded to one another
due to their different temperature coefficients defining
how metals expand and contract when repeatedly heated and
cooled. under these circumstances it's not uncommon for the
female threads in the aluminum engine block to break after
sufficient force has been applied and thus remain attached
to the steel drain plug. if the threads do break simply
drill and re-tap the hole to the next larger size. before
installing the new drain plug apply a product called Never
Seize, a compound designed to compensate for the two different
metal thermal coefficients.

Anti-seize is also alleged to reduce galvanic corrosion and oxidation of
the aluminum. Recalling that the original VW Beetle had problems with
various engine studs freezing in the aluminum block, I Googled. That
reminded me that there was the same sort of problem with European
motorcycles of roughly the same vintage. (Harley didn't care how much
their motorcycles weighed. g) Anyway, the search returned up this
thread that you might enjoy.
http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/33097.html?1082064060


have fun in the shop.

Just don't mix up the tubes of anti-seize and Loctite.

hi Eggs.

Jim

Ann wrote:

Jim wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
ME said:

I have a Murray 17.5 hp
The plug will not come out for anything.
Would anyone have a solution ?


vicegrips?

be SURE to set the caming action
tight

I bet you got a cast aluminum engine block with a steel
drain plug.
before
installing the new drain plug apply a product called Never
Seize, a compound designed to compensate for the two different
metal thermal coefficients.

Anti-seize is also alleged to reduce galvanic corrosion and oxidation of
the aluminum. Recalling that the original VW Beetle had problems with
various engine studs freezing in the aluminum block, I Googled. That
reminded me that there was the same sort of problem with European
motorcycles of roughly the same vintage. (Harley didn't care how much
their motorcycles weighed. g) Anyway, the search returned up this
thread that you might enjoy.
http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/33097.html?1082064060

have fun in the shop.

Just don't mix up the tubes of anti-seize and Loctite.

http://www.permatex.com/product_search.htm

even worse is to think you've selected the correct product
to provide a solution only then to find out at a later date
how the selection was inappropriate.

Product Search Results
The search results displayed below are automotive products.

lubricantsCategory Product
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Stubby said:

[...]

I haven't changed my oil in 17 years

I'm fairly confident that that comes as a shock to very few, here.

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Eggs

-Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.

Start the engine and heat it up before you try to remove it.


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