I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high. Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so anything
tropical will grow here. In the scheme of the layout, the noisy
neighbors/dog is southwest of me and down here, the prevailing wind is
almost always from the SW.
I am thinking of installing a fountain....for the charm of it, the birds
like it...plus it makes for good white noise. I have been to a garden
fountain center and listened to the different tones of water
splashing....drips, sprays, wooshing noises. Big drops falling, etc. I
don't want the water noise to be so much that I have to shout over it, but I
think the white noise will be helpful.
Any suggestions?
I love to be outside. The obnoxious barking is constant. Day and night. I
don't hear it INSIDE my house, because I insulated with blown cellulose to
block traffic noise on the front of my property.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Perry
bentcajungirl

HOWEDY bentcajungirl,

"bentcajungirl" wrote in message
...

I am going to be landscaping soon.

Wonderful! The Puppy Wizzzard uses lots of
dog poo for building rich greenery and gardens.

My situation is that diagonally behind
my property, two lots away is a really
obnoxious LOUD constantly barking dog.

Oh, that's very unfortunate. Dogs bark because of
anxiety... not because they're trying to be OBNOXIOUS.

Yeah, I have spoken with the owners,

EXCELLENT! As a DOG LOVER, you told them HOWE
to handle and train their dog so he'd be RELAXED, CALM,
TRUSTING, and PEACEABLE.

resorted to making complaints with the police

Ahhh! The Puppy Wizzzard sees you've followed the
advice of HOWER dog love Master Of Deception
blankman from dogplay.con!

and am considering taking them to city court.

A WIZE idea...

Of curse, THAT COULD get their DOG DEAD on them...

I will be installing a privacy fence.

GOOD FOR YOU! Nobody should be forced
to view your sorry, stinkin, ugly, nasty, lousy,
rotten, cowardly, butt...

Any type of fence better for noise than another?

NOISE? You could PROBABLY TRAIN this dog
YOURSELF in just a few minutes, withHOWET
ever leaving your own pupperty, if you followed
the INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The
Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual...

Metal, wood, etc.

There's nuthin in the Whole Wild World that's gonna
suite this dog's NEEDS for PEACE and CALM, except
TRUST and CONFIDENCE.

Code says I can go 8 feet high.

Yeah. Noise goes hundreds of feet per second.

Will 8 feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier.

You're a simpleton, aren't you, bentcajungirl.

What kind of plants can I plant that will cushion sound?

The Puppy Wizzzard just sez "NO!" to THAT kinda stuff...

I am in extreme South Louisiana,

The Puppy Wizzzard abides by local laws...

so anything tropical will grow here.

Just say "NO!" Mind altering plants are NOT the answer.

In the scheme of the layout, the noisy
neighbors/dog is southwest of me and
down here, the prevailing wind is
almost always from the SW.

Good. Face north and turn sideways when you fart.

I am thinking of installing a fountain.... for the charm of it,

INDEEDY! You certainly are charming...

the birds like it...

The Puppy Wizzzard sez the birds make noise
for the same same same same reason dogs do...

plus it makes for good white noise.

That so?

I have been to a garden fountain center and
listened to the different tones of water splashing....

Ever hear of the Chinese Water Torture?

drips,

Yeah. INDEEDY! That's the WON!

sprays, wooshing noises.

No no no, just DRIPS. WON at a time. S-L-O-W-L-Y.
VERY SLOWLY. For a LONG time...

Big drops falling, etc.

That's the idea. Eventually, the steady drip feels
like BIG drops falling like sledgehammers...

It's about the same same same same effect as
the constant corrections you and your dog lover
pals use, are to your dogs...

I don't want the water noise to be so much that
I have to shout over it,

Of curse you wouldn't want to shout, it'd make
your dogs feel uncomfortable.

but I think the white noise will be helpful.

INDEED?

Any suggestions?

Yeah... But you don't possess the intellect to HOWEtwit
the cunnin of the domestic puppy dog, even after The
Puppy Wizzzard and HIS 100% nearly instantly successful
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students tell you HOWE they done it FAST, EZ, and
FOR FREE.

I love to be outside.

LikeWIZE!

The obnoxious barking is constant.

Sounds like the dog is terribly distressed.

Day and night.

The dog NEEDS HELP!!!

I don't hear it INSIDE my house,

Well, that's very fortunate for YOU, ain't it?

because I insulated with blown cellulose to
block traffic noise on the front of my property.

Good for you!

Any suggestions appreciated.

Yeah. You could follow the instrucions in your FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual and break this
dogs anxiety barking in a few minutes over a couple
of days, but you do not possess the INTELLECT to
study the method and apply the techniques.

Perry
bentcajungirl

Of curse, The Puppy Wizzzard also SELLS a
machine that CURES all animal behavior problems
in the entire neighborhood. But you don't want THAT,
you'd rather HURT and KILL this dog, cause that's
YOUR HUMAN NATURE.

"Terri"@cyberhighway

Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for
putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.

And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually
admit to buying and having success with his little black box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to
him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box
first?)

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"misty" wrote in message
...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main
concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how
to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now g
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time. IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

=====================

"misty" wrote in message


We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
come back in the yard and would run for days. The
last time, Peach didn't come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the
yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
walk around the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an
electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
The price was too high:-(
~misty

============

"misty" wrote in message
...

Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have a
very loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting to
my 8 month old son.

Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage as a
hold on for dear life object.

Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
two boys went through this stage in a different house where
Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits, not
daily contact 24/7.

Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by non-stop
screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block away with
all the widows shut g being in the house it makes your
ears pop and your nerves crawl.

Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
use it. He answered my questions quite politely.

I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.

At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then I
realized after a week that he no longer screamed for hours
on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely bg he
still demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't start
screaming at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to bed.

Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My nerves
were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per Jerry's
instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I turned it
back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy calmed back
down and quit screaming.

In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.

I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like
things that are free. I also like the fact that I can e-mail
him and get advice whenever I need it.

Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in
electronics, knows alot about radios and anything
mechanical... he's a jack of all trades around the house
g). He does NDT for a living.

We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey is
walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange animal..
some kind of furless dog or c*t bg.

==============================

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Fitz ]
Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 11:53 a.m.
To: ;
Subject: Jerry Howe

Hi,
Jerry uses your email in his posts and I was wondering what you have to
say of his training methods.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bousie"
To: "'Don Fitz'" ;
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:45 AM
Subject: Jerry Howe


If you have read the newsgroup posts then you must already
have a good idea about what I think.

His methods are the best I have come across. They aren't
a quick fix but an entire training concept so if you aren't in
for the long haul then don't bother.

If you go his way then you have to forget all the other
gibberish that other people spew, you have to believe
in what you are doing, then and only then will you get
the results.

You can't combine his methods with other training methods,
not until you understand what you are trying to achieve, and
even then I have only ever combined about 2 other trainers
ideas and even then just a snip of what they suggest which
works in parallel with the Wits End concept.


His methods make you as the trainer completely responsible
for your actions, his methods make you think and work out
your own solutions for any given situation, the default (the
recall) is always there to get things under control again.

His ideas and concepts teach you to work with the dog, to
develop a team and a willingness to work together which
is surely the best way to be.

His methods don't use force or intimidation but they do totally
emphasize the absolute importance of pack (family pack)
structure, without that you can achieve almost nothing.

If you are wondering how a dog can be trained without any
negativity the answer lies in the recall, anytime your dog
doesn't follow through with a request you call him / her to you,
since the recall is the first thing taught and it is taught in such
a way it becomes a reflex the dog always returns to you, it is
a subordinate position for the dog and we release
it by asking for a "heel" which is an "equal" position.

His methods are very good, his understanding of dogs is
excellent, I recommend his methods.

Paul Bousie

==============================

"Linda" wrote in message
om...
"Rosa Palmén" wrote in message
et...

Rosa, I got the doggy do right machine from Jerry
in Jan and my dog relaxed in the first week. He
does not have SA but he scratched himself raw
until I got the machine. He also was a frantic
chewer on his sticks until I got the machine.

In less than a month he really relaxed. Now when
the machine in on he just lays down and goes to sleep.

If there is something outside that upsets him like a
cat in the yard I just turn it on and he can cope.

You will see all sorts of comments about the machine
being as loud as a freight train etc but it is small and
can not be heard by humans. I know he can hear it
and that it relaxes him because I can see him relax
when he hears it.

I used the machine outside on the patio to quiet to
dogs behind us that barked a hundred times a day.

In two weeks they reduced the barking by 80%--

When they barked after the machine was on Sunshine
ran to the patio as they were alarm barking not just
barking to pass the time.

I asked the owners if they had noticed the dogs barking
less and they said yes they had guessed the dogs were
just growing up.

Sunshine loved daycare but he was kicked out when he
got aggressive but now than he has been trained with
Jerry's Wits End Method and the machine I think I will
let him go back to daycare.

I am disabled so I can not run and play with him and
I know he needs to play with other dogs.

Go to www.doggydoright.com and read about the
machine and get a free copy of Wits End Training
Manual--since the info is free you won't
lose anything and you can really help your dog.

Linda and Sunshine

-------------------------------

Nevyn" wrote in message
om...


Hi There Jerry

Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been
working weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds
(thanks to you!).

Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
without a leash, they will do any command with no
hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
your machine!

Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
and family -- Here are some reports:

"I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
instantly stopping.

It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.

Truly amazing;

I have recommended it to my family, and perhaps
they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
-- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr
Rotty X)

"My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
go past. With this little machine they quietened right
down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
nothing!

Great stuff.

We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!"
- Ed, 65, on his two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.

Well I have some more, and am collecting more,
but I only have one machine so its a slow process.
Once again I say thankyou Jerry! My family was
on the verge of giving them up!

But no longer

=====================

From: aimee )
Subject: doggie do right
Date: 2002-08-01 06:57:15 PST


doggie do right rocks!!

We were sent one of these fantastic machines 5
months ago to see if it would help with our rambunctious
mutts.

The doggy do right has done more than just work...it has
worked miracles!

Our pair of noisier than freight-train doggies were barking
so loud at our neighbours and passers by that we were just
about ready to find them new homes.

But within just two months of using the Doggy Do
Right they were nice and quiet and stopped barking
at the neighbours.

They did relapse a little when their owner went away,
but we started the program again and within days they
were both quiet and obedient once more.

Our doggies have now not barked unnecessarily for
over 2 months.

Thanks Jerry! You have made my dreams come true!

Aimee.

===========================


Jerry says:
HOWE'S the baby's seizures?

parentadlitem says:
better

Jerry says:
got any idea how much better?

parentadlitem says:
not really

parentadlitem says:
she doesn't do em here that i see

Jerry says:
amazing

Jerry says:
when's the last time she seized with you?

parentadlitem says:
weeks ago?

Jerry says:
but before the machine it was daily?

parentadlitem says:
every minute!

Jerry says:
does her mom use it at her HOWES?

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i yelled at her about it

Jerry says:
ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me

parentadlitem says:
k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin over

Jerry says:
yeah... that's pretty good stuff

parentadlitem says:
yup

parentadlitem says:
i love mine

parentadlitem says:
no barkin the neighborhood at all anymore

parentadlitem says:
ever

Jerry says:
right

parentadlitem says:
once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark

parentadlitem says:
but all the neighbors dogs are quiet

Jerry says:
when you hear that distant dog throw the machine on

parentadlitem says:
we do

parentadlitem says:
it's really rare though

=================


Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)

The Puppy Wizard. }TPW;-)

ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. }YPW;~}
oo-oo

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:55:41 -0500, "bentcajungirl"
wrote:

I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally
behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high. Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so anything
tropical will grow here.

Can't you just plant kudzu under the neighbor's dog? Besides muffling
the sound, you'll get self-watering, self-fertilizing topiary.

Lee


HOWEDY lee,

You can't continue to post here...

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On 14 Jan 2003 19:47:15 GMT, (Tricia9999)
wrote:

After all, school is a place where you get
bullied, learn to bully, learn to gossip, form cliques,
learn how to do shortcuts, etc, etc.

Oh, you mean "survival skills"?

Just kidding...somewhat.

Lee

Say CONGRATULATIONS To Linda, lee - "Today Seemed Like A Miracle" -

HOWEDY lee,

(Lee DeRaud) wrote in
:

On 5 Nov 2002 09:01:26 -0800,
(Linda) wrote:

I wish everyone who has a dog could know how well the Wits'
End Dog Training works so dogs would not lose there homes
because of behavioral problems and not be subjected to
torture in the name of training.

Honey,

Linda is a cripple, lee. We'd think everyone
would be tickled pink that Linda doesn't have
to worry about her dog HURTIN nobody noMOORE
and maybe gettin DEAD on her, like so many of
your group have had to do to their own dogs
because you're incompetent lying dog abusing
Thug coward control freaks who couldn't outwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog if your
own lives depended on it.

Your dog's lives obviously aren't as important
as your fragile defective egos.

sit back and relax,

No lee, Linda needs exercise to build her strength.

you don't need to do a thing,

She's got to work harder than you or me ever thought
of, to keep whatever little is left of her mobility,
poor dear little crippled thing she is with that awful
out of control GSD of hers. That dog should be put to
sleep, he's bitten her repeatedly and is dangerous to
one and all.

the good people on this group

The good people, lee? What good people, lee? The good
people like YOU who'd tell her to KILL her dog? The
good people like YOU who'd deny others of the same
benefit all my students find in their FREE copy of
my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual, lee?

There's no good people here, except me and a couple of
my nearly instant 100% successful students, and Soup,
and occasionally Nick, who's not my student, but moore
so, he's a natural trainer, a fatherly guy, who
understands dogs and treats them as he does his children.

will do *everything* in their power to help get the Word out.

Thank you, but no thank you, lee. Sorry lee, we don't
appreciate being associated with lying dog abusing Thugs,
lee. Your collective word, is worthless. In fact, you
could RUIN my reputation by endorsing my methods.

That's what I told your pal booby maida when HE offered
to endorse my methods if I'd lay off him, "I'm only trying
to make a living" he cried to me... I told him if he didn't
post anything I couldn't criticize, I wouldn't criticize him.

Next post from booby was talking of my mumzie bein a hoer
in the Orchids of FL and that I'm a convicted child molester
fugitive, lee.

I'd prefer you continue to warn folks about me and tell
them to killfile their FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual.

Just unplug your computer and take a nap with your dog,

Do you think that's a wise idea, lee? The dog may
try to DOMINATE her, lee. Shouldn't sleep with an
aggressive dog, you know that as well as your pals
here KNOW that much.

FurtherMOORE, she coulda got the best computer in
the world for the amount of hard earned dough she
WASTED on traditional training and vets and behaviorists.

we've got your back.

BWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! I've chewed up and down
your collective backs so bad you ain't even gonna
try to get a new one cause that'll just invite me
to tear you up again, you miserable sod.

Oh, BTW, you mis-spelled "HOWE".

But YOU didn't, DID YOU, lee. None of your pals misspell
HOWE noMOORE, do you. That speaks well of my training
method, lee.

I rely on the koehler method, lee. Every thing you've seen
me do here, I learned from and improvised upon, right outta
my koehler book, recommended by our good professor SCRUFF
SHAKE of the UofWI department of behaviorISM and ed w of
petloss dot CON and most of our group of dog lovers.

Lee

Now get the heel outta here you miserable
lying dog abusing Thug.

But first, say CONGRATULATIONS to Linda, lee.

Your Get The Heel Outta Here Wizard. YGTHOHW;-:}

=============================

Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: - dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

=======================================

"Linda" wrote in message
om...

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help.

We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment
would not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking
and he got stressed have the people stop until he could get
in control using treats,and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when I
tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two were
so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one said I
should give up on him and kill him but they would say "You
have to realize he is dangerous and you are responsible for
him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 month!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!Three weeks since
beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

===================

--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

================================

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.

===================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!


----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I am not sure what happened but after two days
Sunshine walked with me not sniffing, pulling or
going his own way. In two and a half years he
has never walked without his nose to the ground-
-today he walked closer too the cart than ever
before and turned to look at me every few minutes-
-in past with treats and pleading he only looked
toward me when I had a treat in my hand.
It is hard to believe he has really changed so quickly.
Now I have several questions--After one time with
throwing the can he has always come on the first call-
-do I need to try to set him up to not come so we can
do four times in different places?

Yup. You've got to generalize the come command to make
it 100% reliable. MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the sound associated
with the command.

I have not tried to call him off leash outside as that is
the time he is does not come.

O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and Family Leadership
Exercises and you'll have a perfect come command in a couple
fifteen minute sessions.

On the leash he came on the first call today even when he
was starting to explore the leaves etc.

Excellent. We discussed his penchant for eating leaves and
dirt off the ground.

He walked past several people today with hardly a second glance-

We also discussed that he was rather aggressive, and you
were becoming very concerned about being able to keep him.

he did see a cat about 10 feet away and when I called him
the first time he did not respond but when I used the can he
ran over to me and seemed to forget about the cat.

PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need the sound.
Just remember to vary the origin of the sound each time,
day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.

Now what do I do when he sees another dog?

You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to make the sound
and praise if he continues looking, and if that fails, you'll
ask him to come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise techniques.

You'll get used to thinking that fast in a couple more days,
no problem.

Although the calling him the four times seems easy it was
very hard-

Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right, but if
you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get it right the
next time. We don't lose points for "do overs" as long as we
get the pup under control fast and EZ. That's HOWE COME that
dependable come command is so necessary.

-I had a friend which was good since I had a lot of trouble
calling the right way and using the can at the same time.

Yes, I recommended you may want a friend to help because
of your disability.

I found out I had been calling him many times each time
I called him to come.

Right. Should be about a second between requests and
the sounds on the second and fourth commands and move
off into the FPLX if that fails, and continue the technique.

EZ, huh???

I am still working on the leash it is really hard when you
are not standing upright as the leash can not be as loose
since it drags on the ground-

Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try to handle the
lead exactly as instructed. It'll feel uncomfortable for a
few days, but we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.

-I am so worried without the leash around my hand

Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands, let me
do the worrying for you... O.K.?

but I am not sure if it was the leash,

Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol of
the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition
reflex.

telling him good boy everytime he looked at me

That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do is tell me
good boy and I'll do anything she asks. Hey? I think
I just figgered out HOWE COME she always gets
her way with me...

or the cans,

Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous and coincidentally
but well timed sound will work, maybe even BETTER.

but today seemed like a miracle.

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

I told a friend about this approach and they thought you
were on "Today" this spring--was it you?

Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast EZ safe gentle
methods. I'll be on TV soon enough with my Doggy Do Right
(And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two
Did Too) machine.

But that's just gonna give me the floor to discuss the state
of the art of the animal behavior industry.

Would you do me a favor? If you're on the internet, I'd sure
appreciate it if you'd repost this to the groups, a lot of
people are saying terrible things about me and tellin folks
reports like yours, are FORGERIES by ME.

Thank you for being a good student.

Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression

Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: dog aggression


Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I got your message tonight and have printed
your manual--will start tomorrow--

Excellent.

I am truly at my wits end!!!

Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!

Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
"rage" .

He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.

EZ stuff.

Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog

Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.

and pulled me down-

In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.

-since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
a major problem as I can not get up without much help.

He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.

He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
falling.

Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.

The second time was when we were going down the street-
-I use an electric cart

Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.

and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did

That would complicate and slow things down.

and took off-

In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.

-lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
reach of his mouth and he bite me-

That was predictable!

-he bites what every is close.

At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!

When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-

Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...

-take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
him-

Perfect.

-and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
off he is in another world.

Yeah, kinda like me...

You are my last hope-

You're gonna be EZ.

-he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
floor,closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand
to brace me when I stand up on my bad days.

He sounds like a great dog!

He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
I call him to come in and close the door.

He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.

He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
would much harder.

We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.

But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem

Pssst! It's already in the bag...

he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
killed.

Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.

Your method seems so simple

It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.

after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
change his behavior easily-

Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.

-but I will start trying tomorrow.

And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.

I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.

I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!

Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.

Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.

In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...

but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
other "corrections"

Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.

I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
food.

Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.

Thanks for your help in advance-

CONGRATULATIONS in advance...

-I pray your method will be our salvation!!!

No need to. It's already DONE.

_

Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.

Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.

Yours, Jerry.

================================

"michael" wrote in message
...

Linda wrote:

No, I am sure I did not try "All" ways, but enough to know
I was making no progress. Probably everything does not
work for every dog, just like somethings like medication
or therapy to not work for all humans. But I am unable to
find a negative reason to not try the Wits End approach.

It has been so wonderful to be able to enjoy being in
public with my dog that I want others to try the method so
they can get beyond their problems. Why fight over what
works best instead of trying to help dogs and their
owners?

I have been a university professor for thirty
years where my goal was to help students see the big
picture of the issues rather than fight to be right. When
you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with
using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you
criticize the use of sound?

They do it because they've been preaching that Jerry is
crazy, and insane and that he stole all his methods and that
he doesn't have any dogs, and that he's not a dog trainer
for YEARS.

They've got a lot vested in Jerry being a fraud and a phony
and living in a mental institution.

But it's they who are

CUCKOOO!!
CUKCOOOOO!!!
ding ding ding!!!

not jerry

don't mind the gators and snakes and piranhas and feel free
to report your progress.

Linda

this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

"Dimpled Chad"
wrote in message
6.16...
On 09 Jan 2003, michael opined:

You disgust me. You make me physically ill.

Pot/Kettle/Black, you anti-semetic, anarchical, Jerry Howe
sycophant.

-Chad (making a donation, ala Shore, to the anti-defamation league
in your honor) plonk

Looking for a pet? Adopt one!
http://www.petfinder.com

Email accepted, just correct my address above...
Abusive or Inappropriate email reported and/or posted...

disciple Cad will NEVER realize his career in theological ethics.

SO SEZ ALL OF US... The Puppy Wizard and HIS friends... }TPW;~)

Oh, bye the bye, ask matty HOWE his dog Rocky's SEIZURES are
doin... THAT'S CAUSED BY BRIBES AND PUNISHMENT AND CRATING...

BWEAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

The Puppy Wizard wrote:

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:55:41 -0500, "bentcajungirl"
wrote:

I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally
behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high. Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so anything
tropical will grow here.

Can't you just plant kudzu under the neighbor's dog? Besides muffling
the sound, you'll get self-watering, self-fertilizing topiary.

Lee


HOWEDY lee,

You can't continue to post here...

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On 14 Jan 2003 19:47:15 GMT, (Tricia9999)
wrote:

After all, school is a place where you get
bullied, learn to bully, learn to gossip, form cliques,
learn how to do shortcuts, etc, etc.

Oh, you mean "survival skills"?

Just kidding...somewhat.

Lee

Say CONGRATULATIONS To Linda, lee - "Today Seemed Like A Miracle" -

HOWEDY lee,

(Lee DeRaud) wrote in
:

On 5 Nov 2002 09:01:26 -0800,
(Linda) wrote:

I wish everyone who has a dog could know how well the Wits'
End Dog Training works so dogs would not lose there homes
because of behavioral problems and not be subjected to
torture in the name of training.

Honey,

Linda is a cripple, lee. We'd think everyone
would be tickled pink that Linda doesn't have
to worry about her dog HURTIN nobody noMOORE
and maybe gettin DEAD on her, like so many of
your group have had to do to their own dogs
because you're incompetent lying dog abusing
Thug coward control freaks who couldn't outwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog if your
own lives depended on it.

Your dog's lives obviously aren't as important
as your fragile defective egos.

sit back and relax,

No lee, Linda needs exercise to build her strength.

you don't need to do a thing,

She's got to work harder than you or me ever thought
of, to keep whatever little is left of her mobility,
poor dear little crippled thing she is with that awful
out of control GSD of hers. That dog should be put to
sleep, he's bitten her repeatedly and is dangerous to
one and all.

the good people on this group

The good people, lee? What good people, lee? The good
people like YOU who'd tell her to KILL her dog? The
good people like YOU who'd deny others of the same
benefit all my students find in their FREE copy of
my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual, lee?

There's no good people here, except me and a couple of
my nearly instant 100% successful students, and Soup,
and occasionally Nick, who's not my student, but moore
so, he's a natural trainer, a fatherly guy, who
understands dogs and treats them as he does his children.

will do *everything* in their power to help get the Word out.

Thank you, but no thank you, lee. Sorry lee, we don't
appreciate being associated with lying dog abusing Thugs,
lee. Your collective word, is worthless. In fact, you
could RUIN my reputation by endorsing my methods.

That's what I told your pal booby maida when HE offered
to endorse my methods if I'd lay off him, "I'm only trying
to make a living" he cried to me... I told him if he didn't
post anything I couldn't criticize, I wouldn't criticize him.

Next post from booby was talking of my mumzie bein a hoer
in the Orchids of FL and that I'm a convicted child molester
fugitive, lee.

I'd prefer you continue to warn folks about me and tell
them to killfile their FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual.

Just unplug your computer and take a nap with your dog,

Do you think that's a wise idea, lee? The dog may
try to DOMINATE her, lee. Shouldn't sleep with an
aggressive dog, you know that as well as your pals
here KNOW that much.

FurtherMOORE, she coulda got the best computer in
the world for the amount of hard earned dough she
WASTED on traditional training and vets and behaviorists.

we've got your back.

BWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! I've chewed up and down
your collective backs so bad you ain't even gonna
try to get a new one cause that'll just invite me
to tear you up again, you miserable sod.

Oh, BTW, you mis-spelled "HOWE".

But YOU didn't, DID YOU, lee. None of your pals misspell
HOWE noMOORE, do you. That speaks well of my training
method, lee.

I rely on the koehler method, lee. Every thing you've seen
me do here, I learned from and improvised upon, right outta
my koehler book, recommended by our good professor SCRUFF
SHAKE of the UofWI department of behaviorISM and ed w of
petloss dot CON and most of our group of dog lovers.

Lee

Now get the heel outta here you miserable
lying dog abusing Thug.

But first, say CONGRATULATIONS to Linda, lee.

Your Get The Heel Outta Here Wizard. YGTHOHW;-:}

=============================

Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: - dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

=======================================

"Linda" wrote in message
om...

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help.

We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment
would not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking
and he got stressed have the people stop until he could get
in control using treats,and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when I
tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two were
so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one said I
should give up on him and kill him but they would say "You
have to realize he is dangerous and you are responsible for
him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 month!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!Three weeks since
beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

===================

--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

================================

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.

===================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I am not sure what happened but after two days
Sunshine walked with me not sniffing, pulling or
going his own way. In two and a half years he
has never walked without his nose to the ground-
-today he walked closer too the cart than ever
before and turned to look at me every few minutes-
-in past with treats and pleading he only looked
toward me when I had a treat in my hand.
It is hard to believe he has really changed so quickly.
Now I have several questions--After one time with
throwing the can he has always come on the first call-
-do I need to try to set him up to not come so we can
do four times in different places?

Yup. You've got to generalize the come command to make
it 100% reliable. MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the sound associated
with the command.

I have not tried to call him off leash outside as that is
the time he is does not come.

O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and Family Leadership
Exercises and you'll have a perfect come command in a couple
fifteen minute sessions.

On the leash he came on the first call today even when he
was starting to explore the leaves etc.

Excellent. We discussed his penchant for eating leaves and
dirt off the ground.

He walked past several people today with hardly a second glance-

We also discussed that he was rather aggressive, and you
were becoming very concerned about being able to keep him.

he did see a cat about 10 feet away and when I called him
the first time he did not respond but when I used the can he
ran over to me and seemed to forget about the cat.

PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need the sound.
Just remember to vary the origin of the sound each time,
day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.

Now what do I do when he sees another dog?

You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to make the sound
and praise if he continues looking, and if that fails, you'll
ask him to come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise techniques.

You'll get used to thinking that fast in a couple more days,
no problem.

Although the calling him the four times seems easy it was
very hard-

Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right, but if
you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get it right the
next time. We don't lose points for "do overs" as long as we
get the pup under control fast and EZ. That's HOWE COME that
dependable come command is so necessary.

-I had a friend which was good since I had a lot of trouble
calling the right way and using the can at the same time.

Yes, I recommended you may want a friend to help because
of your disability.

I found out I had been calling him many times each time
I called him to come.

Right. Should be about a second between requests and
the sounds on the second and fourth commands and move
off into the FPLX if that fails, and continue the technique.

EZ, huh???

I am still working on the leash it is really hard when you
are not standing upright as the leash can not be as loose
since it drags on the ground-

Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try to handle the
lead exactly as instructed. It'll feel uncomfortable for a
few days, but we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.

-I am so worried without the leash around my hand

Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands, let me
do the worrying for you... O.K.?

but I am not sure if it was the leash,

Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol of
the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition
reflex.

telling him good boy everytime he looked at me

That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do is tell me
good boy and I'll do anything she asks. Hey? I think
I just figgered out HOWE COME she always gets
her way with me...

or the cans,

Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous and coincidentally
but well timed sound will work, maybe even BETTER.

but today seemed like a miracle.

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

I told a friend about this approach and they thought you
were on "Today" this spring--was it you?

Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast EZ safe gentle
methods. I'll be on TV soon enough with my Doggy Do Right
(And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two
Did Too) machine.

But that's just gonna give me the floor to discuss the state
of the art of the animal behavior industry.

Would you do me a favor? If you're on the internet, I'd sure
appreciate it if you'd repost this to the groups, a lot of
people are saying terrible things about me and tellin folks
reports like yours, are FORGERIES by ME.

Thank you for being a good student.

Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression

Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: dog aggression

Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I got your message tonight and have printed
your manual--will start tomorrow--

Excellent.

I am truly at my wits end!!!

Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!

Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
"rage" .

He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.

EZ stuff.

Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog

Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.

and pulled me down-

In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.

-since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
a major problem as I can not get up without much help.

He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.

He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
falling.

Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.

The second time was when we were going down the street-
-I use an electric cart

Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.

and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did

That would complicate and slow things down.

and took off-

In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.

-lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
reach of his mouth and he bite me-

That was predictable!

-he bites what every is close.

At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!

When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-

Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...

-take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
him-

Perfect.

-and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
off he is in another world.

Yeah, kinda like me...

You are my last hope-

You're gonna be EZ.

-he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
floor,closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand
to brace me when I stand up on my bad days.

He sounds like a great dog!

He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
I call him to come in and close the door.

He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.

He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
would much harder.

We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.

But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem

Pssst! It's already in the bag...

he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
killed.

Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.

Your method seems so simple

It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.

after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
change his behavior easily-

Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.

-but I will start trying tomorrow.

And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.

I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.

I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!

Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.

Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.

In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...

but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
other "corrections"

Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.

I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
food.

Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.

Thanks for your help in advance-

CONGRATULATIONS in advance...

-I pray your method will be our salvation!!!

No need to. It's already DONE.

_

Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.

Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.

Yours, Jerry.

================================

"michael" wrote in message
...

Linda wrote:

No, I am sure I did not try "All" ways, but enough to know
I was making no progress. Probably everything does not
work for every dog, just like somethings like medication
or therapy to not work for all humans. But I am unable to
find a negative reason to not try the Wits End approach.

It has been so wonderful to be able to enjoy being in
public with my dog that I want others to try the method so
they can get beyond their problems. Why fight over what
works best instead of trying to help dogs and their
owners?

I have been a university professor for thirty
years where my goal was to help students see the big
picture of the issues rather than fight to be right. When
you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with
using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you
criticize the use of sound?

They do it because they've been preaching that Jerry is
crazy, and insane and that he stole all his methods and that
he doesn't have any dogs, and that he's not a dog trainer
for YEARS.

They've got a lot vested in Jerry being a fraud and a phony
and living in a mental institution.

But it's they who are

CUCKOOO!!
CUKCOOOOO!!!
ding ding ding!!!

not jerry

don't mind the gators and snakes and piranhas and feel free
to report your progress.

Linda

this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

"Dimpled Chad"
wrote in message
6.16...
On 09 Jan 2003, michael opined:

You disgust me. You make me physically ill.

Pot/Kettle/Black, you anti-semetic, anarchical, Jerry Howe
sycophant.

-Chad (making a donation, ala Shore, to the anti-defamation league
in your honor) plonk

Looking for a pet? Adopt one!
http://www.petfinder.com

Email accepted, just correct my address above...
Abusive or Inappropriate email reported and/or posted...

disciple Cad will NEVER realize his career in theological ethics.

SO SEZ ALL OF US... The Puppy Wizard and HIS friends... }TPW;~)

Oh, bye the bye, ask matty HOWE his dog Rocky's SEIZURES are
doin... THAT'S CAUSED BY BRIBES AND PUNISHMENT AND CRATING...

BWEAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
This email is to alert you to an error you made in this post to this
newsgroup.
The URL you posted is incorrect. The correct URL is:
http://www.petloss.com

HOWEDY eddie,

Can we talk abHOWET the WONDERFUL koehler reviews
you mentioned that The Puppy Wizzzard FAILED to mention to us?

The Puppy Wizzzard awaits your defense of the koehler method...

The Puppy Wizzzard. }TPW;~ )

Here's some quotes and some methods right outta your
koehler book:

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar and leash
are more than adequate for any jerk or strain that the
dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where
the dog makes his grab. Before the teeth have reached
their target, the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems
the dog is suspended in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover his footing
while he still had the strength to renew the attack
would be cruelty. The only justifiable course is to
hold him suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight. When finally it is
obvious that he is physically incapable of expressing
his resentment and is lowered to the ground, he will
probably stagger loop-legged for a few steps,
vomit once or twice, and roll over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued, on his side,
is not pleasant, but do not let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would regard the
foregoing types of protest as "kid stuff" and would
express his resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these extreme
problems.
Nearly always the "protest biter" is the handiwork of
a
person who, by avoiding situations that the dog might
resent, has nurtured the seeds of rebellion and then
cultivated the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable and oftentimes
painful harvest, they are ready to avail themselves of
"the cruel trainer" whose advice they may have once
rejected because it was incompatible with the sugary
droolings of mealy-mouthed columnists, breed-ring
biddies, and dog psychologists who, by the broken skins
and broken hearts their misinformation causes, can be
proven guilty of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the biting dog than
would ever be demonstrated by those who are "too kind"
to make a correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer morally feels
obligated to perform a "major operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with the dog that
bites in resentment of the demands of training, we will
set our example in that situation. (In a later chapter
we will deal with the with the much easier problem of
the dog that bites someone other than his master."
"Ed Williams" "edwilliams REMOVE wrote in message
...
The Puppy Wizard wrote:

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:55:41 -0500, "bentcajungirl"
wrote:

I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally
behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly
barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making
complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for
noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high.
Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I
plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so
anything
tropical will grow here.

Can't you just plant kudzu under the neighbor's dog? Besides muffling
the sound, you'll get self-watering, self-fertilizing topiary.

Lee


HOWEDY lee,

You can't continue to post here...

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On 14 Jan 2003 19:47:15 GMT, (Tricia9999)
wrote:

After all, school is a place where you get
bullied, learn to bully, learn to gossip, form cliques,
learn how to do shortcuts, etc, etc.

Oh, you mean "survival skills"?

Just kidding...somewhat.

Lee

Say CONGRATULATIONS To Linda, lee - "Today Seemed Like A Miracle" -

HOWEDY lee,

(Lee DeRaud) wrote in
:

On 5 Nov 2002 09:01:26 -0800,
(Linda) wrote:

I wish everyone who has a dog could know how well the Wits'
End Dog Training works so dogs would not lose there homes
because of behavioral problems and not be subjected to
torture in the name of training.

Honey,

Linda is a cripple, lee. We'd think everyone
would be tickled pink that Linda doesn't have
to worry about her dog HURTIN nobody noMOORE
and maybe gettin DEAD on her, like so many of
your group have had to do to their own dogs
because you're incompetent lying dog abusing
Thug coward control freaks who couldn't outwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog if your
own lives depended on it.

Your dog's lives obviously aren't as important
as your fragile defective egos.

sit back and relax,

No lee, Linda needs exercise to build her strength.

you don't need to do a thing,

She's got to work harder than you or me ever thought
of, to keep whatever little is left of her mobility,
poor dear little crippled thing she is with that awful
out of control GSD of hers. That dog should be put to
sleep, he's bitten her repeatedly and is dangerous to
one and all.

the good people on this group

The good people, lee? What good people, lee? The good
people like YOU who'd tell her to KILL her dog? The
good people like YOU who'd deny others of the same
benefit all my students find in their FREE copy of
my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual, lee?

There's no good people here, except me and a couple of
my nearly instant 100% successful students, and Soup,
and occasionally Nick, who's not my student, but moore
so, he's a natural trainer, a fatherly guy, who
understands dogs and treats them as he does his children.

will do *everything* in their power to help get the Word out.

Thank you, but no thank you, lee. Sorry lee, we don't
appreciate being associated with lying dog abusing Thugs,
lee. Your collective word, is worthless. In fact, you
could RUIN my reputation by endorsing my methods.

That's what I told your pal booby maida when HE offered
to endorse my methods if I'd lay off him, "I'm only trying
to make a living" he cried to me... I told him if he didn't
post anything I couldn't criticize, I wouldn't criticize him.

Next post from booby was talking of my mumzie bein a hoer
in the Orchids of FL and that I'm a convicted child molester
fugitive, lee.

I'd prefer you continue to warn folks about me and tell
them to killfile their FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual.

Just unplug your computer and take a nap with your dog,

Do you think that's a wise idea, lee? The dog may
try to DOMINATE her, lee. Shouldn't sleep with an
aggressive dog, you know that as well as your pals
here KNOW that much.

FurtherMOORE, she coulda got the best computer in
the world for the amount of hard earned dough she
WASTED on traditional training and vets and behaviorists.

we've got your back.

BWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! I've chewed up and down
your collective backs so bad you ain't even gonna
try to get a new one cause that'll just invite me
to tear you up again, you miserable sod.

Oh, BTW, you mis-spelled "HOWE".

But YOU didn't, DID YOU, lee. None of your pals misspell
HOWE noMOORE, do you. That speaks well of my training
method, lee.

I rely on the koehler method, lee. Every thing you've seen
me do here, I learned from and improvised upon, right outta
my koehler book, recommended by our good professor SCRUFF
SHAKE of the UofWI department of behaviorISM and ed w of
petloss dot CON and most of our group of dog lovers.

Lee

Now get the heel outta here you miserable
lying dog abusing Thug.

But first, say CONGRATULATIONS to Linda, lee.

Your Get The Heel Outta Here Wizard. YGTHOHW;-:}

=============================

Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: - dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

=======================================

"Linda" wrote in message
om...

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help.

We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment
would not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking
and he got stressed have the people stop until he could get
in control using treats,and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when I
tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two were
so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one said I
should give up on him and kill him but they would say "You
have to realize he is dangerous and you are responsible for
him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 month!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!Three weeks since
beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

===================

--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

================================

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.

===================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I am not sure what happened but after two days
Sunshine walked with me not sniffing, pulling or
going his own way. In two and a half years he
has never walked without his nose to the ground-
-today he walked closer too the cart than ever
before and turned to look at me every few minutes-
-in past with treats and pleading he only looked
toward me when I had a treat in my hand.
It is hard to believe he has really changed so quickly.
Now I have several questions--After one time with
throwing the can he has always come on the first call-
-do I need to try to set him up to not come so we can
do four times in different places?

Yup. You've got to generalize the come command to make
it 100% reliable. MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the sound associated
with the command.

I have not tried to call him off leash outside as that is
the time he is does not come.

O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and Family Leadership
Exercises and you'll have a perfect come command in a couple
fifteen minute sessions.

On the leash he came on the first call today even when he
was starting to explore the leaves etc.

Excellent. We discussed his penchant for eating leaves and
dirt off the ground.

He walked past several people today with hardly a second glance-

We also discussed that he was rather aggressive, and you
were becoming very concerned about being able to keep him.

he did see a cat about 10 feet away and when I called him
the first time he did not respond but when I used the can he
ran over to me and seemed to forget about the cat.

PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need the sound.
Just remember to vary the origin of the sound each time,
day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.

Now what do I do when he sees another dog?

You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to make the sound
and praise if he continues looking, and if that fails, you'll
ask him to come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise techniques.

You'll get used to thinking that fast in a couple more days,
no problem.

Although the calling him the four times seems easy it was
very hard-

Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right, but if
you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get it right the
next time. We don't lose points for "do overs" as long as we
get the pup under control fast and EZ. That's HOWE COME that
dependable come command is so necessary.

-I had a friend which was good since I had a lot of trouble
calling the right way and using the can at the same time.

Yes, I recommended you may want a friend to help because
of your disability.

I found out I had been calling him many times each time
I called him to come.

Right. Should be about a second between requests and
the sounds on the second and fourth commands and move
off into the FPLX if that fails, and continue the technique.

EZ, huh???

I am still working on the leash it is really hard when you
are not standing upright as the leash can not be as loose
since it drags on the ground-

Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try to handle the
lead exactly as instructed. It'll feel uncomfortable for a
few days, but we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.

-I am so worried without the leash around my hand

Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands, let me
do the worrying for you... O.K.?

but I am not sure if it was the leash,

Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol of
the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition
reflex.

telling him good boy everytime he looked at me

That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do is tell me
good boy and I'll do anything she asks. Hey? I think
I just figgered out HOWE COME she always gets
her way with me...

or the cans,

Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous and coincidentally
but well timed sound will work, maybe even BETTER.

but today seemed like a miracle.

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

I told a friend about this approach and they thought you
were on "Today" this spring--was it you?

Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast EZ safe gentle
methods. I'll be on TV soon enough with my Doggy Do Right
(And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two
Did Too) machine.

But that's just gonna give me the floor to discuss the state
of the art of the animal behavior industry.

Would you do me a favor? If you're on the internet, I'd sure
appreciate it if you'd repost this to the groups, a lot of
people are saying terrible things about me and tellin folks
reports like yours, are FORGERIES by ME.

Thank you for being a good student.

Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression

Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: dog aggression

Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I got your message tonight and have printed
your manual--will start tomorrow--

Excellent.

I am truly at my wits end!!!

Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!

Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
"rage" .

He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.

EZ stuff.

Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog

Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.

and pulled me down-

In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.

-since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
a major problem as I can not get up without much help.

He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.

He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
falling.

Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.

The second time was when we were going down the street-
-I use an electric cart

Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.

and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did

That would complicate and slow things down.

and took off-

In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.

-lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
reach of his mouth and he bite me-

That was predictable!

-he bites what every is close.

At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!

When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-

Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...

-take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
him-

Perfect.

-and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
off he is in another world.

Yeah, kinda like me...

You are my last hope-

You're gonna be EZ.

-he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
floor,closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand
to brace me when I stand up on my bad days.

He sounds like a great dog!

He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
I call him to come in and close the door.

He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.

He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
would much harder.

We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.

But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem

Pssst! It's already in the bag...

he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
killed.

Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.

Your method seems so simple

It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.

after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
change his behavior easily-

Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.

-but I will start trying tomorrow.

And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.

I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.

I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!

Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.

Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.

In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...

but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
other "corrections"

Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.

I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
food.

Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.

Thanks for your help in advance-

CONGRATULATIONS in advance...

-I pray your method will be our salvation!!!

No need to. It's already DONE.

_

Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.

Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.

Yours, Jerry.

================================

"michael" wrote in message
...

Linda wrote:

No, I am sure I did not try "All" ways, but enough to know
I was making no progress. Probably everything does not
work for every dog, just like somethings like medication
or therapy to not work for all humans. But I am unable to
find a negative reason to not try the Wits End approach.

It has been so wonderful to be able to enjoy being in
public with my dog that I want others to try the method so
they can get beyond their problems. Why fight over what
works best instead of trying to help dogs and their
owners?

I have been a university professor for thirty
years where my goal was to help students see the big
picture of the issues rather than fight to be right. When
you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with
using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you
criticize the use of sound?

They do it because they've been preaching that Jerry is
crazy, and insane and that he stole all his methods and that
he doesn't have any dogs, and that he's not a dog trainer
for YEARS.

They've got a lot vested in Jerry being a fraud and a phony
and living in a mental institution.

But it's they who are

CUCKOOO!!
CUKCOOOOO!!!
ding ding ding!!!

not jerry

don't mind the gators and snakes and piranhas and feel free
to report your progress.

Linda

this is michael
reporting live...
http://dogtv.com

"Dimpled Chad"
wrote in message
6.16...
On 09 Jan 2003, michael opined:

You disgust me. You make me physically ill.

Pot/Kettle/Black, you anti-semetic, anarchical, Jerry Howe
sycophant.

-Chad (making a donation, ala Shore, to the anti-defamation league
in your honor) plonk

Looking for a pet? Adopt one!
http://www.petfinder.com

Email accepted, just correct my address above...
Abusive or Inappropriate email reported and/or posted...

disciple Cad will NEVER realize his career in theological ethics.

SO SEZ ALL OF US... The Puppy Wizard and HIS friends... }TPW;~)

Oh, bye the bye, ask matty HOWE his dog Rocky's SEIZURES are
doin... THAT'S CAUSED BY BRIBES AND PUNISHMENT AND CRATING...

BWEAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
This email is to alert you to an error you made in this post to this
newsgroup.
The URL you posted is incorrect. The correct URL is:
http://www.petloss.com

On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:44:13 GMT, Ed Williams "edwilliams REMOVE
wrote:

The Puppy Wizard wrote:

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
[snip]
HOWEDY lee,

You can't continue to post here...

I've *finally* been noticed by Jerry: I feel so...blessed.

Or not.

[snip 800+ lines of Jerry-spew]

BWEAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
This email is to alert you to an error you made in this post to this
newsgroup.
The URL you posted is incorrect. The correct URL is:
http://www.petloss.com

And another schmuck who doesn't know how to use a 'delete' key goes
into the killfile. Just doesn't get any better than this.

Lee

I would tape record the dogs bark and play it back over an amplifier so the
dog will hear it and the ding bat will bark back and possibly go hoarse.
While you are playing the amplified version your neighbor wil hear it too
and maybe get the picture to train the dog.

"bentcajungirl" wrote in message
. ..


I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high. Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so anything
tropical will grow here. In the scheme of the layout, the noisy
neighbors/dog is southwest of me and down here, the prevailing wind is
almost always from the SW.
I am thinking of installing a fountain....for the charm of it, the birds
like it...plus it makes for good white noise. I have been to a garden
fountain center and listened to the different tones of water
splashing....drips, sprays, wooshing noises. Big drops falling, etc. I
don't want the water noise to be so much that I have to shout over it, but
I
think the white noise will be helpful.
Any suggestions?
I love to be outside. The obnoxious barking is constant. Day and night.
I
don't hear it INSIDE my house, because I insulated with blown cellulose to
block traffic noise on the front of my property.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Perry
bentcajungirl

The Puppy Wizard wrote:

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:55:41 -0500, "bentcajungirl"
wrote:

I am going to be landscaping soon. My situation is that diagonally
behind
my property, two lots away is a really obnoxious LOUD constantly barking
dog. Yeah, I have spoken with the owners, resorted to making complaints
with the police and am considering taking them to city court.
I will be installing a privacy fence. Any type of fence better for noise
than another? Metal, wood, etc. Code says I can go 8 feet high. Will 8
feet vs 6 ft give me more sound barrier. What kind of plants can I plant
that will cushion sound? I am in extreme South Louisiana, so anything
tropical will grow here.

Can't you just plant kudzu under the neighbor's dog? Besides muffling
the sound, you'll get self-watering, self-fertilizing topiary.

Lee


HOWEDY lee,

You can't continue to post here...

"Lee DeRaud" wrote in message
...
On 14 Jan 2003 19:47:15 GMT, (Tricia9999)
wrote:

After all, school is a place where you get
bullied, learn to bully, learn to gossip, form cliques,
learn how to do shortcuts, etc, etc.

Oh, you mean "survival skills"?

Just kidding...somewhat.

Lee

Say CONGRATULATIONS To Linda, lee - "Today Seemed Like A Miracle" -

HOWEDY lee,

(Lee DeRaud) wrote in
:

On 5 Nov 2002 09:01:26 -0800,
(Linda) wrote:

I wish everyone who has a dog could know how well the Wits'
End Dog Training works so dogs would not lose there homes
because of behavioral problems and not be subjected to
torture in the name of training.

Honey,

Linda is a cripple, lee. We'd think everyone
would be tickled pink that Linda doesn't have
to worry about her dog HURTIN nobody noMOORE
and maybe gettin DEAD on her, like so many of
your group have had to do to their own dogs
because you're incompetent lying dog abusing
Thug coward control freaks who couldn't outwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog if your
own lives depended on it.

Your dog's lives obviously aren't as important
as your fragile defective egos.

sit back and relax,

No lee, Linda needs exercise to build her strength.

you don't need to do a thing,

She's got to work harder than you or me ever thought
of, to keep whatever little is left of her mobility,
poor dear little crippled thing she is with that awful
out of control GSD of hers. That dog should be put to
sleep, he's bitten her repeatedly and is dangerous to
one and all.

the good people on this group

The good people, lee? What good people, lee? The good
people like YOU who'd tell her to KILL her dog? The
good people like YOU who'd deny others of the same
benefit all my students find in their FREE copy of
my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual, lee?

There's no good people here, except me and a couple of
my nearly instant 100% successful students, and Soup,
and occasionally Nick, who's not my student, but moore
so, he's a natural trainer, a fatherly guy, who
understands dogs and treats them as he does his children.

will do *everything* in their power to help get the Word out.

Thank you, but no thank you, lee. Sorry lee, we don't
appreciate being associated with lying dog abusing Thugs,
lee. Your collective word, is worthless. In fact, you
could RUIN my reputation by endorsing my methods.

That's what I told your pal booby maida when HE offered
to endorse my methods if I'd lay off him, "I'm only trying
to make a living" he cried to me... I told him if he didn't
post anything I couldn't criticize, I wouldn't criticize him.

Next post from booby was talking of my mumzie bein a hoer
in the Orchids of FL and that I'm a convicted child molester
fugitive, lee.

I'd prefer you continue to warn folks about me and tell
them to killfile their FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End
Dog Training Method manual.

Just unplug your computer and take a nap with your dog,

Do you think that's a wise idea, lee? The dog may
try to DOMINATE her, lee. Shouldn't sleep with an
aggressive dog, you know that as well as your pals
here KNOW that much.

FurtherMOORE, she coulda got the best computer in
the world for the amount of hard earned dough she
WASTED on traditional training and vets and behaviorists.

we've got your back.

BWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! I've chewed up and down
your collective backs so bad you ain't even gonna
try to get a new one cause that'll just invite me
to tear you up again, you miserable sod.

Oh, BTW, you mis-spelled "HOWE".

But YOU didn't, DID YOU, lee. None of your pals misspell
HOWE noMOORE, do you. That speaks well of my training
method, lee.

I rely on the koehler method, lee. Every thing you've seen
me do here, I learned from and improvised upon, right outta
my koehler book, recommended by our good professor SCRUFF
SHAKE of the UofWI department of behaviorISM and ed w of
petloss dot CON and most of our group of dog lovers.

Lee

Now get the heel outta here you miserable
lying dog abusing Thug.

But first, say CONGRATULATIONS to Linda, lee.

Your Get The Heel Outta Here Wizard. YGTHOHW;-:}

=============================

Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: - dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.

=======================================

"Linda" wrote in message
om...

I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.

At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.

I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.

I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph.D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.

I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help.

We finally went to Purdue University Small Animal Behavior
Clinic and they said he had fear aggression, punishment
would not work, use the gentle leader and when out walking
and he got stressed have the people stop until he could get
in control using treats,and work on clicker training.

At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when I
tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women who
hasn't trained her dog"

I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two were
so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one said I
should give up on him and kill him but they would say "You
have to realize he is dangerous and you are responsible for
him."

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sunshine
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.

As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.

He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.

The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 month!

Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?

I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.

When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"

The results can make a believer!!!Three weeks since
beginning the Wits End Training Manual program I walked
him without the gentle leader in a busy shopping area with
many dogs.

He just seemed to not notice any one.

When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.

If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
and had to be killed. Through all this he never growled
at me, guarded his toys or food or showed any sign of
aggression with me.

My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.

I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!

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--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

================================

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase--Sunshine
come goodboy.

===================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I am not sure what happened but after two days
Sunshine walked with me not sniffing, pulling or
going his own way. In two and a half years he
has never walked without his nose to the ground-
-today he walked closer too the cart than ever
before and turned to look at me every few minutes-
-in past with treats and pleading he only looked
toward me when I had a treat in my hand.
It is hard to believe he has really changed so quickly.
Now I have several questions--After one time with
throwing the can he has always come on the first call-
-do I need to try to set him up to not come so we can
do four times in different places?

Yup. You've got to generalize the come command to make
it 100% reliable. MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the sound associated
with the command.

I have not tried to call him off leash outside as that is
the time he is does not come.

O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and Family Leadership
Exercises and you'll have a perfect come command in a couple
fifteen minute sessions.

On the leash he came on the first call today even when he
was starting to explore the leaves etc.

Excellent. We discussed his penchant for eating leaves and
dirt off the ground.

He walked past several people today with hardly a second glance-

We also discussed that he was rather aggressive, and you
were becoming very concerned about being able to keep him.

he did see a cat about 10 feet away and when I called him
the first time he did not respond but when I used the can he
ran over to me and seemed to forget about the cat.

PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need the sound.
Just remember to vary the origin of the sound each time,
day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.

Now what do I do when he sees another dog?

You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to make the sound
and praise if he continues looking, and if that fails, you'll
ask him to come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise techniques.

You'll get used to thinking that fast in a couple more days,
no problem.

Although the calling him the four times seems easy it was
very hard-

Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right, but if
you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get it right the
next time. We don't lose points for "do overs" as long as we
get the pup under control fast and EZ. That's HOWE COME that
dependable come command is so necessary.

-I had a friend which was good since I had a lot of trouble
calling the right way and using the can at the same time.

Yes, I recommended you may want a friend to help because
of your disability.

I found out I had been calling him many times each time
I called him to come.

Right. Should be about a second between requests and
the sounds on the second and fourth commands and move
off into the FPLX if that fails, and continue the technique.

EZ, huh???

I am still working on the leash it is really hard when you
are not standing upright as the leash can not be as loose
since it drags on the ground-

Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try to handle the
lead exactly as instructed. It'll feel uncomfortable for a
few days, but we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.

-I am so worried without the leash around my hand

Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands, let me
do the worrying for you... O.K.?

but I am not sure if it was the leash,

Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol of
the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition
reflex.

telling him good boy everytime he looked at me

That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do is tell me
good boy and I'll do anything she asks. Hey? I think
I just figgered out HOWE COME she always gets
her way with me...

or the cans,

Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous and coincidentally
but well timed sound will work, maybe even BETTER.

but today seemed like a miracle.

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

I told a friend about this approach and they thought you
were on "Today" this spring--was it you?

Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast EZ safe gentle
methods. I'll be on TV soon enough with my Doggy Do Right
(And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A Cockatoo Or Two
Did Too) machine.

But that's just gonna give me the floor to discuss the state
of the art of the animal behavior industry.

Would you do me a favor? If you're on the internet, I'd sure
appreciate it if you'd repost this to the groups, a lot of
people are saying terrible things about me and tellin folks
reports like yours, are FORGERIES by ME.

Thank you for being a good student.

Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To:
Subject: dog aggression

Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect or I'll get the
heel outta this business... Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: dog aggression

Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks for the encouragement

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: dog aggression

HOWEDY _,

I got your message tonight and have printed
your manual--will start tomorrow--

Excellent.

I am truly at my wits end!!!

Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!

Today he bite me twice breaking the skin when he was in a
"rage" .

He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking about you when he
bites. He's just overexcited trying to PROTECT you. That'll
diminish immediately through simply handling the lead
properly, gettin the control and attention through the praise
conditioning, and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control.

EZ stuff.

Once when he saw another dog-ran toward the dog

Sound/praise and repeat as necessary. Just remember
to always vary the direction the sound comes from. You
might need a helper to produce the alternate sounds in
time.

and pulled me down-

In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.

-since I do not walk or move very well, falling down is
a major problem as I can not get up without much help.

He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.

He bite me when my hand went close to his mouth while I was
falling.

Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's in a fury protecting
you.

The second time was when we were going down the street-
-I use an electric cart

Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.

and a man walked toward us and He saw him before I did

That would complicate and slow things down.

and took off-

In a couple days you'll have the control to stop him after
he's started.

-lunging barking and snapping again I got my hand within
reach of his mouth and he bite me-

That was predictable!

-he bites what every is close.

At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!

When he is not in a rage he will let me doing anything-

Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is the kind of
dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...

-take is food away, touch him anywhere, or do anything to
him-

Perfect.

-and he will never even raise his lip but when he goes
off he is in another world.

Yeah, kinda like me...

You are my last hope-

You're gonna be EZ.

-he works to help me at home--he picks up anything on the
floor,closes doors, picks up the daily paper and will stand
to brace me when I stand up on my bad days.

He sounds like a great dog!

He waits for me to go out the door first and will wait until
I call him to come in and close the door.

He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.

He really helps me everyday and if I didn't have him life
would much harder.

We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.

But I know if we can not solve the "rage" problem

Pssst! It's already in the bag...

he will bite someone other than me and will have to be
killed.

Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.

Your method seems so simple

It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me if you
need any help. I've got all kinds of fast EZ solutions
for any problem you could encounter.

after all we have tried it does not seem possible to
change his behavior easily-

Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force
and confrontation.

-but I will start trying tomorrow.

And instead of trying to force him to stay in control,
you'll PRAISE his first aggressive thought and he'll
move in close to YOU to protect you, not charge at
others. He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll do
EVERY THING you ask the first time.

I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.

I use a Halti so he does not pull me over-usually!

Right, but here again, you're relying on some degree
of force to control him. That will ALWAYS trigger
the OPPOSITE of what we want, telling him to be
aggressive, not to pay attention to you and your safety.

Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a shoe horn
to PRY him AWAY from you.

In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone all you'll
have to do is let him see someone and gently pull back
on his collar without sayin nuthin, and that'll set him off...

but have never used punishment, choke collar or any
other "corrections"

Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.

I taught him all his tricks and tasks with a clicker and
food.

Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the click differently
for our puporses.

Thanks for your help in advance-

CONGRATULATIONS in advance...

-I pray your method will be our salvation!!!

No need to. It's already DONE.

_

Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.

Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.

Yours, Jerry.

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"michael" wrote in message
...

Linda wrote:

No, I am sure I did not try "All" ways, but enough to know
I was making no progress. Probably everything does not
work for every dog, just like somethings like medication
or therapy to not work for all humans. But I am unable to
find a negative reason to not try the Wits End approach.

It has been so wonderful to be able to enjoy being in
public with my dog that I want others to try the method so
they can get beyond their problems. Why fight over what
works best instead of trying to help dogs and their
owners?

I have been a university professor for thirty
years where my goal was to help students see the big
picture of the issues rather than fight to be right. When
you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with
using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you
criticize the use of sound?

They do it because they've been preaching that Jerry is
crazy, and insane and that he stole all his methods and that
he doesn't have any dogs, and that he's not a dog trainer
for YEARS.

They've got a lot vested in Jerry being a fraud and a phony
and living in a mental institution.

But it's they who are

CUCKOOO!!
CUKCOOOOO!!!
ding ding ding!!!

not jerry

don't mind the gators and snakes and piranhas and feel free
to report your progress.

Linda

this is michael
reporting live...
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You disgust me. You make me physically ill.

Pot/Kettle/Black, you anti-semetic, anarchical, Jerry Howe
sycophant.

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