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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:01 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12-"
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Perhaps it would be better to say that New Mexico is a state with a lot
of
soul and wide open spaces.

Sure you're not talking about "The Dixie Chicks" from Texas and their
major debut album?

There just are not that many people there to
screw things up.

Now if you want a state that is soulless.....try New Jersey, especially
Atlantic City!!! HeHe!

Good luck with the decision about NM Marilyn. What do Rose, Sugar and
the cat(s) (can't remember names) think about the possible move?? You
gotta talk to all the interested parties ...........

(;-))

Very best wishes
Geoff



this is a hard one for me. About the hardest decision I have had to make in
quite a long time. There are a lot of factors that we have to consider, but
the first thing is to just say "yes" to Squire and let him start the wheels
in motion. I am more apprehensive about this than I should be. (there are
too many things to take into consideration that are going on at the moment).
First and foremost is if he even gets approval for this job. Just the fact
that he has years of experience with exactly what their criteria calls for
despite the minimum requirements of a BA will be a determining factor. I
would actually hope for once that experience would win out over formal
education. (Squire is a phenominal teacher....his job these last six years
for higher technology in the transportation industry was like a rolling
teaching experience from city to city, as Helen up in Canada would attest
to, and hey, Zhan too).

My heart is here in the hills of Eastern Tennessee, but what will be will
be. Not to sound corny or hokey, but just to be able to go in and tell John
that I'm alright with his taking the next step will be a leap of total faith
for me. From there it's up to the fates. (just think of all those cacti
pieces or seeds? that I could send you, Geoff to grow for your own in
Scotland GBSEG) which reminds me. I am trying to figure out a way to send
a bareroot white bird of paradise over the pond to you. Do you think it
would live the trip?
all the best back to you (I have the new Capercaillie cd, it's awesome)'
Maddie (check out the website, www.wncw.org and go to photo gallery and
look under Fall fund raising.......see if you can spot "Aunt Maddie" in the
photos that are posted there....wearing her silver and trademark garden
hat..................(that was a huge hint)

yes it would help................((((hug)))
Maddie
"paghat" wrote in message
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Mad: I've never liked moving & now that I own a house it's nice to believe
I'll never again have to, & yet I do sometimes fantasize moving to a
property big enough for me to start a collection of beech trees, beech
trees all over the place, a whole forest of fancy-ass cultivars in all
colors, a garden of TREES, ooo, ooo, let's sell our place right now & move
to the middle of nowhere!

My partner sometimes talks about moving us to Idaho because she has family
there, & we go there a lot. I find it is a lot less horrible to imagine
having to leave here if I think about the sorts of things I could grow.
There's much that grows here that I love that I'd have to give up because
they'd be doomed in Idaho winters, but I would greatly look forward to
collecting ladyslipper terrestrial orchids that I can't grow here because
our winters are too mild for them to have their cold period, but would do
great in an Idaho garden. I wonder if making a list of stuff ideal for
southwest climates & picturing a future garden in your mind wouldn't take
the awful edge off the upset of having to make such a major change.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

"Janet Baraclough"
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Okay, well stop there and calm down a bit; you've got MUCH MORE than

24 hours to make a decision.



Is it likely he's the *only* well qualified applicant?. I don't know how
jobs are going in the USA, but in the UK adverts often attract hundreds of
applicants. They won't all be suitable but they all have to be looked at.
Sorting the wheat from the chaff, arranging interviews, shortlisting and
final decision, takes several weeks minimum. Even when a verbal offer goes
out to the chosen applicant, sorting out the details of the contract can
take another week or two. Even then, nothing is cut and dried till both
sides sign the contract. Sometimes, after taking a look round, meeting the
people, or whatever, successful applicants withdraw.



All you need say now is "Go ahead and apply, but let's not make the final
decision yet".You've got plenty of time to talk to him, think it over,
research it, buy a sub to local newspapers, go look at the place together
(if he goes for interview) etc. Then trust that your long close bond will
almost certainly help you both make the same choice.



HTH

Janet



You're right. and he's NOT the only person qualified. It's just spooky with
the job qualifications. He has them ALL.........but he has to submit this
before October 23rd, and even then the possibility that he doesn't have a
B.A. would affect the outcome. I think his years hands on experience will
have a lot to do with the final outcome. I will keep ya'll abreast of the
situation, and I won't drag on about it. Either we'll do this, he'll get it
and I will have to realign my thinking, or he won't and we'll move on to the
next level. Either way, I'll try to bloom where I am planted..........g

all the best honey

Maddie thinking about having to move in all those cactus and succulents and
tropicals before long because fall is fast slipping past us here. (I have
about 200 in pots)

Well, maybe I worded it incorrectly, but NM is one glorious state. If I'm not
mistaken, I believe there is a grand total of a million people in the entire
state.

We considered moving there when we left Dallas, but chose Austin because it is
warm in winter. I didn't know you lived there.

V

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:51:01 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12-"
opined:

Perhaps it would be better to say that New Mexico is a state with a lot of
soul and wide open spaces. There just are not that many people there to
screw things up.

Now if you want a state that is soulless.....try New Jersey, especially
Atlantic City!!! HeHe!


animaux wrote in message
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I believe it's the home of SETI as well as being a very underpopulated
state.
There are vast regions in NM with not a soul. The whole state has one
area code
for the phone system.

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:12:25 -0700, "Starlord"
opined:

I've never been there, but one thing I know about the whole state of
N.M., they
now have one of the best anti-light pollution laws on the books now.
State is
very PRO Astronomy.

That's what I was thinking too. Yes you have deep roots and a love for
where you're at now, but, think of the new possibilities in gardening in a
new climate with new animals and plants to fall in love with :-)

I wouldn't like to leave New England, so I can understand your pain when it
comes to thinking about a move - but what new, wondrous life forms await in
NM?

((hugs))
~LeeAnne

"Madgardener" wrote in message
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thanks Bill for the supportive words. I will keep my gardening friends
abreast of the situations when they become clearer. madgardener

"Bill" wrote in message
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Your reluctance is easy to understand Maddie. You've been there eleven
years and you've sunk deep roots. Uprooting them is going to hurt. On
the other hand, if you go, you get to put down new roots when pot
bound, root prune and get a bigger pot , try out xeriscaping and put
that Western Sunset Garden Book to use.

Good Luck in either case,

Bill

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:51:11 -0400, "Madgardener"
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I need to know what Albuquerque, New Mexico is like. Climate. Cost of
living. Cost of houses. Sizes of yards. Restrictions. Crime. What zone it's
considered. A good site that is idiot proof that might take me to these
questions. What groceries average. This is extremely important to me and
before ya'll tell me to go to a website. ..... the ones I've found are
extensive, it takes forever to download these sites of some of them (I have
dial up connection and I need a dead ringer site that would be simple with
answers to these questions) unless there is someone out there in the
newsgroup that can answer me because they live there.................
madgardener serious about these inquiries (don't ask, just help me, please)

It's a great place. Clean, nice weather, cool winters (apples and
tulips), summer monsoons. Ethnically diverse. Beautiful.

Buy the Sunset Western Garden Book and find out what the zones are,
because you may read the zone descriptions and decide you want to live
in a particular situation. Forget the USDA zones, because they're
worthless. I don't know how anyone can use them, to be honest.

Mary, Zones 11 and 13

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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Forget the USDA zones, because they're
worthless. I don't know how anyone can use them, to be honest.

Folks use them because plants are not sold with Sunset hardiness zone
indicators and the zone information provided in the Sunset books is woefully
incorrect.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:08:11 GMT, "Pam - gardengal"
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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Forget the USDA zones, because they're
worthless. I don't know how anyone can use them, to be honest.

Folks use them because plants are not sold with Sunset hardiness zone
indicators and the zone information provided in the Sunset books is woefully
incorrect.

Really? I've never had a problem with the zone information. They're
a little conservative, I know, but some of that is the microclimate
problem. And plants aren't sold with USDA zone indicators either.

Minimum temperature is just not enough information. Even AHS says so
implicitly, with their additional zone system. If you use minimum
temperature, Palm Desert and, let's see, San Francisco, maybe, are in
the same zone, 30 degF. I don't think so.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer