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These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. Basically, just taking up space.

If this pic gets through...

http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/...orchlosers.jpg

would somebody ID the plants?

What to do?
Move them to other location - less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?

TIA

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On 8/15/12 9:06 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. Basically, just taking up space.

If this pic gets through...

http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/...orchlosers.jpg

would somebody ID the plants?

What to do?
Move them to other location - less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?

TIA

HB


Canna

They prefer full sun. The pots you have are really too small; they need
more room for their roots.

I would not plant them in the ground because they spread and eventually
can be invasive. In a large bed, however, they can be quite striking
when in bloom.

Frankly, I do not like them because, after they bloom, the look somewhat
weedy. They can be cut down to the ground after blooming; they will
sprout and grow back quickly.

Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:00:12 -0700, "David E. Ross"
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On 8/15/12 9:06 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. Basically, just taking up space.

If this pic gets through...

http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/...orchlosers.jpg

would somebody ID the plants?

What to do?
Move them to other location - less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?

TIA

HB


Canna

They prefer full sun. The pots you have are really too small; they need
more room for their roots.

I would not plant them in the ground because they spread and eventually
can be invasive. In a large bed, however, they can be quite striking
when in bloom.

Frankly, I do not like them because, after they bloom, the look somewhat
weedy. They can be cut down to the ground after blooming; they will
sprout and grow back quickly.

Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.


They also need larger pots, new potting soil (that looks like they're
planted in adobe), and never plant directly in plastic/painted pots,
planters need to be porous, unglazed/unpainted clay is best.
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On 15/08/2012 18:33, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:00:12 -0700, "David E. Ross"

Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.


and never plant directly in plastic/painted pots,
planters need to be porous, unglazed/unpainted clay is best.


Why?

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On Aug 15, 10:33*am, Brooklyn1 Gravesend1 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 10:00:12 -0700, "David E. Ross"









wrote:
On 8/15/12 9:06 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. *They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. *Basically, just taking up space.


If this pic gets through...


http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/.../?action=view¤...


would somebody ID the plants?


What to do?
Move them to other location *- less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?


TIA


HB


Canna


They prefer full sun. *The pots you have are really too small; they need
more room for their roots.


I would not plant them in the ground because they spread and eventually
can be invasive. *In a large bed, however, they can be quite striking
when in bloom.


Frankly, I do not like them because, after they bloom, the look somewhat
weedy. *They can be cut down to the ground after blooming; they will
sprout and grow back quickly.


Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.


They also need larger pots, new potting soil (that looks like they're
planted in adobe), and never plant directly in plastic/painted pots,
planters need to be porous, unglazed/unpainted clay is best.


I don't have adobe, so not sure what you're basing that on. I have
rich loam, constantly modified with compost and worm castings, inter
alia.

HB


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On Aug 15, 10:00*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:
On 8/15/12 9:06 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:









These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. *They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. *Basically, just taking up space.


If this pic gets through...


http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/.../?action=view¤...


would somebody ID the plants?


What to do?
Move them to other location *- less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?


TIA


HB


Canna

They prefer full sun. *The pots you have are really too small; they need
more room for their roots.

I would not plant them in the ground because they spread and eventually
can be invasive. *In a large bed, however, they can be quite striking
when in bloom.

Frankly, I do not like them because, after they bloom, the look somewhat
weedy. *They can be cut down to the ground after blooming; they will
sprout and grow back quickly.

Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.


***Silly me; I have tons of (red) cannas in the back yard. I should
have been able to recognize the leaf & bloom.

I'll find a spot for those two yellow ones in the ground and will
watch with interest to see if the foliage perks up with more room for
roots.
Yes, I also snap them cannas off after blooming. They grow back
quickly and also spread underground.

HB


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On Aug 15, 2:56*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Aug 15, 10:00*am, "David E. Ross" wrote:









On 8/15/12 9:06 AM,HiggsBosonwrote:


These two plants have been on my front porch for years. Their foliage
always looks like ****, though they get the same care as others. *They
bloom occasionally, reluctantly. *Basically, just taking up space.


If this pic gets through...


http://s1260.photobucket.com/albums/.../?action=view¤...


would somebody ID the plants?


What to do?
Move them to other location *- less/more sun? They get plenty
afternoon sun in summer and less in winter.
Put them in the ground?
Just get rid of them?


TIA


HB


Canna


They prefer full sun. *The pots you have are really too small; they need
more room for their roots.


I would not plant them in the ground because they spread and eventually
can be invasive. *In a large bed, however, they can be quite striking
when in bloom.


Frankly, I do not like them because, after they bloom, the look somewhat
weedy. *They can be cut down to the ground after blooming; they will
sprout and grow back quickly.


Cannas are hardy to about 15F (-9C) but are not hardy where the soil
freezes.


***Silly me; I have tons of (red) cannas in the back yard. *I should
have been able to recognize the leaf & bloom.

I'll find a spot for those two yellow ones in the ground and will
watch with interest to see if the foliage perks up with more room for
roots.


***Thanks again to those who encouraged me to GIVE THEM MORE ROOM. I
put them in the ground, where they seem to be much happier GORGEOUS
yellow bloom!

HB


Yes, I also snap them cannas off after blooming. *They grow back
quickly and also spread underground.

HB

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