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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
Hi there,
Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. Many thanks to anyone who can help me with this matter. |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
Elizabeth2108 wrote:
Hi there, Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. this is usually a local legal matter at the township or villiage level. so speaking to a local offical will be the right one. perhaps they have a website? Many thanks to anyone who can help me with this matter. good luck, songbird |
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On 3/18/12 12:29 AM, Elizabeth2108 wrote:
Hi there, Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. Many thanks to anyone who can help me with this matter. You have the right to trim it back to your property line if you can do it without killing the plant. For your neighbor to enter your property to trim it, you would have to give a written release to your neighbor. If this becomes a frequent task that your neighbor does, you might inadvertently create an easement on your property for that purpose, which I don't think you want. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
Elizabeth2108 wrote:
Hi there, Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. Many thanks to anyone who can help me with this matter. Not knowing where in the world you are I have no idea. Ask your local government authority, you are not the first person in the world to have this problem. D |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
"Elizabeth2108" wrote in message
Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. I see that you are posting to the UK based gardenbanter forum. If you are in the UK, you would be better off asking this in the uk gardening group (uk.rec.gardening) than in this group which has international posters. If the UK rules are anything like in Australia then it is your responsibility to deal with anything on your side of the fence - not a cm more though than to the fence line - you cannot cut back into the neighbour's side of the fence. |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:24:30 +1100, "Farm1"
wrote: "Elizabeth2108" wrote in message Please can anyone tell me who is legally responsible for maintaining a hedge planted in someone's garden but growing over the fence into someone else's garden - my neighbor's hedge is overhanging my garden by about 60cms and I have asked them to help cut it back to their side of the fence but they have refused to help out and I'm just wondering where I stand legally. I see that you are posting to the UK based gardenbanter forum. If you are in the UK, you would be better off asking this in the uk gardening group (uk.rec.gardening) than in this group which has international posters. If the UK rules are anything like in Australia then it is your responsibility to deal with anything on your side of the fence - not a cm more though than to the fence line - you cannot cut back into the neighbour's side of the fence. Wouldn't that depend on where the fence is located from the property line... here in the US the person who erects the fence is required to maintain a set back from the property line, typically one foot or more so that they can stand on the other side of their fence to perform maintenence to the fence itself and overhanging plantings. Often one finds two fences at a property line with a no man's space between. And some neighbors agree to erect a fence directly on the property line and share the cost which works fine until they have some disagreement or one sells... it's never a good idea to erect a fence directly on a property line. In the US it's perfectly legal to trim plant growth over hanging ones property line regardless of a fence location or if there's no fence... the property line rules, not a fence. I live in a rural area where it's very rare to see a fence at property lines, instead there are hedgerows, typically a fifty foot or more swarth of wooded area... if there is a fence at as property line it's a rock wall of fieldstone within the hedgerow. Hundreds of years ago when these rock walls were erected surveying measurements were not at all accurate, often a tree acted as a corner stake and naturally those trees are long gone. Later on when measuring tools became more accurate it was discovered that rock walls sort of meandered snakelike from actual property lines. Now of course it's easy to do very accurate surveying, with GPS. Anyway if one is planning to prune shrubbery at their property/fence line it's only neighborly to apprise the neighbor to discuss how it's to be done, but if a neighbor doesn't care to have a discussion then trim the encroaching growth but do it carefully respecting the line. |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum
wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. In fact if the neighbor reached over onto your side to take those apples from his tree growing on your side that would be theft... what grows onto your side is yours. If the neighbor didn't want you picking the apples from his tree he should have planted that tree further from the property line. In the present case the neighbor was very presumptuous planting a hedge so that it grows over onto the adjoining property. I planted a dozen trees seventy five feet apart in a row along my property line but I made sure that they were twenty feet into my side... no neighbor problems. |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. Your logic is not the same as the law in some parts of the world and the law relevant to the OP is the key point. D |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:02:20 +1100, "David Hare-Scott"
wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. Your logic is not the same as the law in some parts of the world and the law relevant to the OP is the key point. Most laws pertaining to property are logical and consistant. The US laws relevant to land surveying and property historically directly follow those of the UK. You show me the law pertaining to this case that's contrary, not gum flapping, point me to the actual law that says one must endure whatever their neighbor plants. I seriously doubt that folks in the UK can plant a hedge (or any plant) on or about the property line and allow it to impinge on the adjoining property without repucussion... a hedge is nothing, what were it a maple tree that after a few years begins to grow limbs through the neighbors windows. I think you're purposely being foolish, I'd hate to think you're truly such a fool. |
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In article , Brooklyn1 says...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:02:20 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. Your logic is not the same as the law in some parts of the world and the law relevant to the OP is the key point. Most laws pertaining to property are logical and consistant. The US laws relevant to land surveying and property historically directly follow those of the UK. Which one? Different UK countries often have different laws. The Scottish legal and land ownership system is separate and very different from the English one. English hedge legislation doesn't match Scotland's. You show me the law pertaining to this case that's contrary, not gum flapping, point me to the actual law that says one must endure whatever their neighbor plants. I seriously doubt that folks in the UK can plant a hedge (or any plant) on or about the property line and allow it to impinge on the adjoining property without repucussion Nobody said that. As Lannerman posted above, in the UK, legally you can cut the neighbours hedge (or tree) back to the property line. You must offer him what you cut off; but he's under no obligation to accept it. Janet |
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Hedge maintenance - who's responsibility is it?
"echinosum" wrote in message
That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. NB: OP also referred to "60cms". |
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"Brooklyn1" Gravesend1 wrote in message
... On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:02:20 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. Your logic is not the same as the law in some parts of the world and the law relevant to the OP is the key point. Most laws pertaining to property are logical and consistant. The US laws relevant to land surveying and property historically directly follow those of the UK. You show me the law pertaining to this case that's contrary, not gum flapping, point me to the actual law that says one must endure whatever their neighbor plants. I seriously doubt that folks in the UK can plant a hedge (or any plant) on or about the property line and allow it to impinge on the adjoining property without repucussion... a hedge is nothing, what were it a maple tree that after a few years begins to grow limbs through the neighbors windows. I think you're purposely being foolish, I'd hate to think you're truly such a fool. ???? Regardless of where I live, in my country, I have always been able to plant anything I like so long as it is not a declared noxious weed. I could plant bamboo, ivy, any tree such as a mapple or an oak or a hedge of Leyland cypress. I couldn't plant Scotch thistle, Paterson's Curse, or Serrated tussock. The latter 3 are all classed as noxious weeds because they destroy pasture land. |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:21:28 +1100, "Farm1"
wrote: "Brooklyn1" Gravesend1 wrote in message .. . On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:02:20 +1100, "David Hare-Scott" wrote: Brooklyn1 wrote: On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:40:55 +0000, echinosum wrote: lannerman;953670 Wrote: Further to the above good advice, if indeed you do cut the hedge back yourself then make sure you offer the trimmings back to your neighbour ?? This will protect you from being accused of theft !! There is nothing to stop you cutting back the hedge to the boundary line as long as you are aware that the trimmings legally belong to your neighbour, so by offering them back, you then cover yourself ! Lannerman. That is a specifically British interpretation of law. Given OP's spelling of neighbor, I think they need to know the local legal situation. My logic says the cuttings belong to whichever side they were growing over, that's what gives one the right to cut them... there is no theft... were it an apple tree would you after harvesting those hanging on your side give the apples to the neighbor... I say they'd be yours the same as if they dropped onto your side. Gum flapper No. 1 spews: Your logic is not the same as the law in some parts of the world and the law relevant to the OP is the key point. Most laws pertaining to property are logical and consistant. The US laws relevant to land surveying and property historically directly follow those of the UK. You show me the law pertaining to this case that's contrary, not gum flapping, point me to the actual law that says one must endure whatever their neighbor plants. I seriously doubt that folks in the UK can plant a hedge (or any plant) on or about the property line and allow it to impinge on the adjoining property without repucussion... a hedge is nothing, what were it a maple tree that after a few years begins to grow limbs through the neighbors windows. I think you're purposely being foolish, I'd hate to think you're truly such a fool. in my country, I have always been able to plant anything I like. Gum flapper No. 2. LOL You, you can't even comprehend the question, you're functionally illiterate. |
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