Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds will
grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a few
weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two layers
no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough bark or
mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds growing
between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

Well for me and my garden which is out in a desert field that can grow just
about anykind of weed, I grow iris and as I see the tiny weed start to grow,
I pull it out and try it away. Been doing that and by this time the tiny
weeds are very very few.


--
There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.


The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
AD World
http://www.adworld.netfirms.com/


"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds
growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds
growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


I heard that a pre-emergent (keeps weeds from sprouting) product and
spraying weed killer on anything that does sprout works best. Also keep all
weeds and nearby grass from going to seed. Seed can blow in the wind or be
carried on the feet of pets and people.

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:38:45 -0500, "Manelli Family"
wrote:


"** Frank **" wrote in message
...
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds
growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


I heard that a pre-emergent (keeps weeds from sprouting) product and
spraying weed killer on anything that does sprout works best. Also keep all
weeds and nearby grass from going to seed. Seed can blow in the wind or be
carried on the feet of pets and people.

Boiling water.

"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds
growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


Used motor oil is usually good for one year for that purpose. Nothing will
grow. 2 years later, everything comes back with a vengeance.
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins

Persephone wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:38:45 -0500, "Manelli Family"
wrote:


"** Frank **" wrote in message
m...
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with
a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is
enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds
growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


I heard that a pre-emergent (keeps weeds from sprouting) product and
spraying weed killer on anything that does sprout works best. Also keep
all
weeds and nearby grass from going to seed. Seed can blow in the wind or be
carried on the feet of pets and people.

Boiling water.

Yes, but that would only be practical if the area was small. Add salt for a
better kill.

"Dave" wrote in message
ink.net...
"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is
enough bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers,
weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


Used motor oil is usually good for one year for that purpose. Nothing
will grow. 2 years later, everything comes back with a vengeance.
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins


Wouldn't that pollute the ground water by either perking down or running off
in heavy rains?

On Apr 22, 4:22 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds will
grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a few
weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two layers
no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is enough bark or
mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds growing
between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

How about applying vinegar? I have had good success using it.
http://raised-garden-bed.com/chapt2.html

Johnny

Johnny wrote in
oups.com:

On Apr 22, 4:22 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as
weeds will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then
even with a concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or
in the cracks. Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds
will come back in a few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed
fabric, LOL. Put in two layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff,
only works if there is enough bark or mulch blocking off the
sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

How about applying vinegar? I have had good success using it.
http://raised-garden-bed.com/chapt2.html

Johnny



How about weeding? Getting in there with good tools, on hands and knees,
and actually pulling out the roots/tubers/stolons/? THEN apply your mulch
and other coverage.

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:58:03 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan"
wrote:

"Manelli Family" :


Persephone wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:38:45 -0500, "Manelli Family"
wrote:


"** Frank **" wrote in message
news:geadnZNvD4ppXrbbnZ2dnUVZ_sKunZ2d@comcast. com...
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as
weeds will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then
even with a
concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the
cracks. Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will
come back in a few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed
fabric, LOL. Put in two layers no weed fabric, the commercial
stuff, only works if there is enough
bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers,
weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


I heard that a pre-emergent (keeps weeds from sprouting) product and
spraying weed killer on anything that does sprout works best. Also
keep all
weeds and nearby grass from going to seed. Seed can blow in the wind
or be carried on the feet of pets and people.

Boiling water.

Yes, but that would only be practical if the area was small. Add salt
for a better kill.

I'm sure this is probably an old wives tale but someone told me if you pour
plain salt (not diluted with water) in an area you will not be able to
plant anything for a long, long time. IIRC he said 5 years?

Michael

Not "old wives". A favorite tactic of total warfare going back to
Biblical times.

"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
ink.net...
"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with
a concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the cracks.
Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come back in a
few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL. Put in two
layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if there is
enough bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers,
weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


Used motor oil is usually good for one year for that purpose. Nothing
will grow. 2 years later, everything comes back with a vengeance.
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins


Wouldn't that pollute the ground water by either perking down or running
off in heavy rains?


So do herbicides like roundup. Yet, in denial, people apply it all the time
due to its CONVENIENCE and social denial of its properties.

Stand in a large parking lot often used. Wait for the rain. What is that
shimmery stuff on top of the water runoff?
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins

"Dave" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Manelli Family" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
ink.net...
"** Frank **" wrote in message
. ..
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as weeds
will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then even with
a concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or in the
cracks. Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds will come
back in a few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed fabric, LOL.
Put in two layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff, only works if
there is enough bark or mulch blocking off the sunlight. Bricks and
patio pavers, weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?


Used motor oil is usually good for one year for that purpose. Nothing
will grow. 2 years later, everything comes back with a vengeance.
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins


Wouldn't that pollute the ground water by either perking down or running
off in heavy rains?


So do herbicides like roundup. Yet, in denial, people apply it all the
time due to its CONVENIENCE and social denial of its properties.

I was told RoundUp breaks down in the environment leaving nothing toxic to
humans or animals behind.

Stand in a large parking lot often used. Wait for the rain. What is that
shimmery stuff on top of the water runoff?
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins

"EvilGoddessFragileWarrior"
wrote in message ...
Johnny wrote in
oups.com:

On Apr 22, 4:22 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as
weeds will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then
even with a concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or
in the cracks. Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds
will come back in a few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed
fabric, LOL. Put in two layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff,
only works if there is enough bark or mulch blocking off the
sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

How about applying vinegar? I have had good success using it.
http://raised-garden-bed.com/chapt2.html

Johnny



How about weeding? Getting in there with good tools, on hands and knees,
and actually pulling out the roots/tubers/stolons/? THEN apply your mulch
and other coverage.


Many of these suggestions are fine for smaller areas, but some of us have
large gardens, long driveways and walkways. We'd be spending 24/7 picking
weeds and grubbing out their roots and tubers.

On Apr 23, 7:59 pm, "Manelli Family" wrote:
"EvilGoddessFragileWarrior"
wrote in .com...





Johnny wrote in
roups.com:

On Apr 22, 4:22 pm, "** Frank **" wrote:
Short of pouring concrete slab over it, nothing seems to work as
weeds will grow back in a few weeks, few days if we have rain. Then
even with a concrete slab, weeds will grow in the control joints or
in the cracks. Neither weed wacker, tiller or poison works as weeds
will come back in a few weeks. Weeds growing under and above no weed
fabric, LOL. Put in two layers no weed fabric, the commercial stuff,
only works if there is enough bark or mulch blocking off the
sunlight. Bricks and patio pavers, weeds growing between the joints.

What is a good way to control weeds and what works for you?

How about applying vinegar? I have had good success using it.
http://raised-garden-bed.com/chapt2.html

Johnny

How about weeding? Getting in there with good tools, on hands and knees,
and actually pulling out the roots/tubers/stolons/? THEN apply your mulch
and other coverage.

Many of these suggestions are fine for smaller areas, but some of us have
large gardens, long driveways and walkways. We'd be spending 24/7 picking
weeds and grubbing out their roots and tubers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sometimes I wonder why people buy large lots and don't expect to work
in their gardens? There are plenty of condos and apartments for those
who don't wish to spend a couple of hours a week tending to their
gardens.

Some people actually enjoy weeding and doing other garden chores! Do
you believe it?

If you think you need a better long handled tool for weeding you'll
find plenty on the web with your favorite search engine that can pull
and twist out weeds without tweeking your back.

----
At Peace with Weeds...

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:56:45 -0500, "Manelli Family"
wrote:


I was told RoundUp breaks down in the environment leaving nothing toxic to
humans or animals behind.

Who told you that? Monsanto? Dow Elanco? Safe as table salt? I'm
not saying don't use it, but make sure any amphibians, or reptiles are
in the area or the glysophate will come in contact with them.