upstate NY

I do not have a green thumb nor any luck with previous attempts via
normal seeding routes.has anyone here ever used these preseeded mulch
rolls?
any adive is greatly appreciated.
a prvt reply via email is ok to not clog the newsgroup

thanks
wayne

On 28 Mar 2003 16:07:30 -0800, (wayn) wrote:

not clog the newsgroup
discussion is ok, private consultations come with a fee.


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"wayn" wrote in message
om...
upstate NY
a prvt reply via email is ok to not clog the newsgroup

This newsgroup LIVES for clogs, all that dancing is great exercise to get
ready for the spring gardening marathon!!

I've never personally used those preseeded carpets but I watched a neighbor
roll one out on his parking strip. The results he got would have been the
same as buying a couple of $.99 packets of the "flower garden" mixed seed,
flinging them onto the soil, scatter a little potting soil over the top and
water.

Val





thanks
wayne

wayn writes:

I do not have a green thumb nor any luck with previous attempts via
normal seeding routes.has anyone here ever used these preseeded mulch
rolls?
any adive is greatly appreciated.

They are not foolproof (there are just *too* many talented fools around!).
They usually want a perfectly flat layout, and no one is that good with a
trowel.

I am not sure if you have to put any soil on top the paper that has the
attached seeds, but if so that makes it a bit easier. But you don't get hardly
anything for the effort with the paper.

Examine why your previous attempts at gardening failed and you may figure out
what you would need to do, even with, the paper roll or plant seeds. Most
likely you were inattentive at the wrong time. Little seeds go through
changes very quickly and one oups I forgot to water today, could kill the whole
lot. They are some of the things (even on a paper roll) that need attention in
the early part of life. Marking calendars is one easy way to remember daily
things like are the seeds moist?

I would advise that you read the newsgroup for a while, and see what others
are doing in similar situations (locations!). Sometimes it's not the seed but
knowing that what you have chosen actually 'likes' it there.

And then there are always small plants in 2 - 5" containers, that are all
past that snively seed stage.


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You are not getting a private reply because this is a topic worthy of
discussing with the group.
As Tomski says: If you want a private consultation, you will have to pay for
it.

Those "pre-seeded floral carpets" are a total waste of money. Any one who is
naive enough to buy one should seek professional help.

You would be better off buying annuals in the six packs and planting them
out. That way you know what you have and you know you have actual live
plants.


wayn wrote in message
om...
upstate NY

I do not have a green thumb nor any luck with previous attempts via
normal seeding routes.has anyone here ever used these preseeded mulch
rolls?
any adive is greatly appreciated.
a prvt reply via email is ok to not clog the newsgroup

thanks
wayne

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

You are not getting a private reply because this is a topic worthy of
discussing with the group.
As Tomski says: If you want a private consultation, you will have to pay for
it.

Those "pre-seeded floral carpets" are a total waste of money. Any one who is
naive enough to buy one should seek professional help.

You would be better off buying annuals in the six packs and planting them
out. That way you know what you have and you know you have actual live
plants.

Start your own indoors. Flourescent fixtures are cheap. Seeds offer more
variety than market packs at a tenth of the cost. Harvested seeds cost
almost nothing.

Are we back to that again?

The subject was not starting plants indoors under lights. It was whether
"pre-seeded floral carpets" are any good.

Try to stay on-topic and answer the question before wandering off on some
fanciful tangent.

Can you do it for once?

BTW, are you going to buy them those "cheap" florescent fixtures to which
you allude?
How about providing a link to the source of these "cheap" florescent
fixtures?
The rest of us would like to know where you get them.


Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A. wrote in message
...
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

You are not getting a private reply because this is a topic worthy of
discussing with the group.
As Tomski says: If you want a private consultation, you will have to pay
for
it.

Those "pre-seeded floral carpets" are a total waste of money. Any one
who is
naive enough to buy one should seek professional help.

You would be better off buying annuals in the six packs and planting
them
out. That way you know what you have and you know you have actual live
plants.

Start your own indoors. Flourescent fixtures are cheap. Seeds offer more
variety than market packs at a tenth of the cost. Harvested seeds cost
almost nothing.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Are we back to that again?

The subject was not starting plants indoors under lights. It was whether
"pre-seeded floral carpets" are any good.

And whether prestarted plants are a better option.

Try to stay on-topic and answer the question before wandering off on some
fanciful tangent.

Can you do it for once?

Easy.

Any probs with suggestions on how to save money? I hate to watch someone
**** away hard-earned green without speaking up.

BTW, are you going to buy them those "cheap" florescent fixtures to which
you allude?
How about providing a link to the source of these "cheap" florescent
fixtures?
The rest of us would like to know where you get them.

$10.00 shop lights. Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, etc., all carry them.

BTW, are you going to buy them those "cheap" florescent fixtures to
which
you allude?
How about providing a link to the source of these "cheap" florescent
fixtures?
The rest of us would like to know where you get them.

$10.00 shop lights. Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, etc., all carry them.


Are you deliberately being misleading or do you just have no idea what the
frell you are talking about?

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling. That does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands, florescent tubes, plant
trays, timer, etc. The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?



Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A. wrote in message
...
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Are we back to that again?

The subject was not starting plants indoors under lights. It was whether
"pre-seeded floral carpets" are any good.

And whether prestarted plants are a better option.

Try to stay on-topic and answer the question before wandering off on
some
fanciful tangent.

Can you do it for once?

Easy.

Any probs with suggestions on how to save money? I hate to watch someone
**** away hard-earned green without speaking up.

BTW, are you going to buy them those "cheap" florescent fixtures to
which
you allude?
How about providing a link to the source of these "cheap" florescent
fixtures?
The rest of us would like to know where you get them.

$10.00 shop lights. Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, etc., all carry them.

On 28 Mar 2003 16:07:30 -0800, (wayn) wrote:

I do not have a green thumb nor any luck with previous attempts via
normal seeding routes.has anyone here ever used these preseeded mulch
rolls?

Have not used, but did some investigation a few years ago. It is
recommended to prepare the bed by removing all the weeds or grass,
digging over, improving the soil, etc. By the time you do all that,
you might just as well buy a few $-worth of seeds of choice and
scatter them over your nicely prepared bed. That is, the advertised
product isn't a *magic* carpet. :-)

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling. That
does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands, florescent tubes,
plant
trays, timer, etc. The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest
of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?


Actually, I don't think anyone considering the convenience of a
pre-seeded floral carpet would be interested in growing seeds indoors
even if the plant light kits cost next to nothing! Cheap isn't the
original poster's focus. *Easy* is the focus.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

BTW, are you going to buy them those "cheap" florescent fixtures to
which
you allude?
How about providing a link to the source of these "cheap" florescent
fixtures?
The rest of us would like to know where you get them.

$10.00 shop lights. Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, etc., all carry them.

Are you deliberately being misleading or do you just have no idea what the
frell you are talking about?

It's what I paid for the fixtures over my table saw, plus the two I
use in my custom built, hand-dovetailed, oil finished kitchen seed starter.

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling.

Suspended from chains. Just tack a couple of #8 common nails into
your cellar rafters, then slip the chains in place.

That does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands,

The card table you use maybe twice a year.

florescent tubes,

Cold white tubes, 2 for $4.00. They last at least two seasons, judging
by the bushy, dark green early girls I started three weeks ago.

plant trays,

You need actual "plant trays?"

timer, etc.

Intermatic, 3 cycles. Chinese made, $8.95, HD.

The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?

None needed.

Warren wrote:

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling. That
does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands, florescent tubes,
plant
trays, timer, etc. The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest
of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?


Actually, I don't think anyone considering the convenience of a
pre-seeded floral carpet would be interested in growing seeds indoors
even if the plant light kits cost next to nothing! Cheap isn't the
original poster's focus. *Easy* is the focus.

Then pay someone.

Agreed.

The twinky that suggested growing plants under lights completely missed the
point of the original question. Going through all the trouble of setting up
plant lights and growing plants from seeds would be too expensive and too
time consuming. Not to mention all the work involved and all the space that
would be taken up in the house. That suggestion is not only off-topic, it is
a stupid one. That person seriously needs to do a reality check.

The consensus is that "pre-seeded floral carpets" are a waste of money and
it would be more practical and cheaper in the long run to just buy six packs
of annual plants and plant them. Its the quickest and easiest way to go.
That's why most people do it.


Warren wrote in message
news:YYFha.296922$S_4.251843@rwcrnsc53...
Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling. That
does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands, florescent tubes,
plant
trays, timer, etc. The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest
of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?


Actually, I don't think anyone considering the convenience of a
pre-seeded floral carpet would be interested in growing seeds indoors
even if the plant light kits cost next to nothing! Cheap isn't the
original poster's focus. *Easy* is the focus.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.

How long have you been hooked on crack, you goof ball?

Not only are you completely off-topic, you have to be arrogant about it too?

Why don't you go back to growing your medicinal hemp under lights and just
mellow out, Dr. Feelgood?


Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A. wrote in message
...
Warren wrote:

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

Those are shop light fixtures to be installed in the ceiling. That
does not
include the plant light set-up with plant stands, florescent tubes,
plant
trays, timer, etc. The fixtures alone are worthless without the rest
of set
up.

Where is the link to "cheap" plant light kits?


Actually, I don't think anyone considering the convenience of a
pre-seeded floral carpet would be interested in growing seeds indoors
even if the plant light kits cost next to nothing! Cheap isn't the
original poster's focus. *Easy* is the focus.

Then pay someone.