Not one of those photos you posted opened for me.

FragileWarrior expounded:

Not one of those photos you posted opened for me.

They worked fine in Agent 4.2.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

If using outlook express highlight first one known as 1/4 or 1/2 then
press and hold shift then down key to highlight to last part then right
click and then select combine and decade.
works wonders.
regards

Cineman



"FragileWarrior" wrote in message
...
Not one of those photos you posted opened for me.

Or, better yet, get a dedicated newsreader that can handle all this stuff without any
intervention other than highlighting the relevant articles. The one I use is WinVN
(Windows Visual News), developed a number of years by NASA and
maintained/improved now by Mark Spankus. WinVN handles all types of encoding
currently used (including Yenc without the need for any plug-in) and is simple
enough to use (seems very simple to me, but then I've been using it since I saw a
reference to it in PCMag about 15 years ago). It also has flexible filtering/killfile
capabilities. To get the latest version go to Spankus's site and scroll down a bit until
you reach the WinVN section:

http://www.marks-lab.com/

If, after downloading it, you have questions, I'll be happy to try to answer them.
I'm sure you can figure out how to unmunge my e-mail address.

Richard

In article ,
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If using outlook express highlight first one known as 1/4 or 1/2 then
press and hold shift then down key to highlight to last part then right
click and then select combine and decade.
works wonders.
regards

Cineman



"FragileWarrior" wrote in message
.. .
Not one of those photos you posted opened for me.

RichardB expounded:

Or, better yet, get a dedicated newsreader that can handle all this stuff without any
intervention other than highlighting the relevant articles.

The one I use is Agent 4.2 from http://www.forteinc.com . It's $29.00
and worth every penny.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

Ann wrote:
RichardB expounded:

Or, better yet, get a dedicated newsreader that can handle all this stuff without any
intervention other than highlighting the relevant articles.

The one I use is Agent 4.2 from http://www.forteinc.com . It's $29.00
and worth every penny.


I tried Free Agent (I'm cheap ;-)), and found no way to produce a subset
of the newsgroups by filtering the full list on one word, such as
"garden". In T'Bird, it's easy, there's a box in which you type the
search string (word). How does Agent 4.2 handle this task?

TIA

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:07:24 -0400, Wolf Kirchmeir
wrote:

Ann wrote:
RichardB expounded:

Or, better yet, get a dedicated newsreader that can handle all this stuff without any
intervention other than highlighting the relevant articles.

The one I use is Agent 4.2 from http://www.forteinc.com . It's $29.00
and worth every penny.


I tried Free Agent (I'm cheap ;-)), and found no way to produce a subset
of the newsgroups by filtering the full list on one word, such as
"garden". In T'Bird, it's easy, there's a box in which you type the
search string (word). How does Agent 4.2 handle this task?

TIA
Searching is a breeze with agent 4. Search globally if you need.
Search any word.
Filters are as simple as right clicking on the header. Choose name of
poster or choose title of post. Select any one word of that post and
it will filter all posts with that word in it.
Not sure what you mean about subset.

joevan wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:07:24 -0400, Wolf Kirchmeir
wrote:

Ann wrote:
RichardB expounded:

Or, better yet, get a dedicated newsreader that can handle all this stuff without any
intervention other than highlighting the relevant articles.
The one I use is Agent 4.2 from http://www.forteinc.com . It's $29.00
and worth every penny.

I tried Free Agent (I'm cheap ;-)), and found no way to produce a subset
of the newsgroups by filtering the full list on one word, such as
"garden". In T'Bird, it's easy, there's a box in which you type the
search string (word). How does Agent 4.2 handle this task?

TIA
Searching is a breeze with agent 4. Search globally if you need.
Search any word.
Filters are as simple as right clicking on the header. Choose name of
poster or choose title of post. Select any one word of that post and
it will filter all posts with that word in it.
Not sure what you mean about subset.


Sorry, searching posts isn't what I'm interested in, actually.

The newsreader shows all the newsgroups in in its list - thousands of
them. When setting up the reader, I want to see only the ones about
gardens, for example. That's the "subset" of the newsgroup list.

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

So, how's that done with Agent or Free Agent?

Wolf Kirchmeir expounded:


Sorry, searching posts isn't what I'm interested in, actually.

The newsreader shows all the newsgroups in in its list - thousands of
them. When setting up the reader, I want to see only the ones about
gardens, for example. That's the "subset" of the newsgroup list.

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

So, how's that done with Agent or Free Agent?

That's under Tools/Newsgroup Directory. There's a field where you
type in the word 'garden' and every newsgroup with that in the name
will come up.

I dislike Thunderbird for news because I am so used to the Agent
interface - I like to 'keep' messages right in the group, not have to
copy them into another folder, so everything stays in one place. I
have retention set for 30 days, everything older gets purged except
for the ones I lock as kept. For mail, I use T-bird.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:51:04 -0400, Ann wrote:

Wolf Kirchmeir expounded:


Sorry, searching posts isn't what I'm interested in, actually.

The newsreader shows all the newsgroups in in its list - thousands of
them. When setting up the reader, I want to see only the ones about
gardens, for example. That's the "subset" of the newsgroup list.

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

So, how's that done with Agent or Free Agent?

That's under Tools/Newsgroup Directory. There's a field where you
type in the word 'garden' and every newsgroup with that in the name
will come up.

I dislike Thunderbird for news because I am so used to the Agent
interface - I like to 'keep' messages right in the group, not have to
copy them into another folder, so everything stays in one place. I
have retention set for 30 days, everything older gets purged except
for the ones I lock as kept. For mail, I use T-bird.
Ann is correct. It makes a quick and effective search.

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

Now let me get this straight.

You open the program and see a list of all the tens of thousands of
newsgroups.

You type gardens into the search engine and only see the one or two
groups about gardening.

You click on your favourite gardening group and voila you are here and
ready to start reading the news.

If that's the case..... I don't know what to say.

On my Macintosh.... with my arcaic newsreader.... I can tell it to show
the full group list and search for a particular group just like you.

BUT.... I then tell the program to set up a brand new untitled group
window and I then drag the title of the group I'm interested in to the
new group window and save that window as whatever I wish to call it.

Gardens for example.

If I open up my new gardens group window it opens up and there it is
containing only the garden groups I put in there.

Your doing something radically wrong if your starting your newsgroup day
off with the full newsgroup list that on my system is about ninety
thousand long.

Ann wrote:
Wolf Kirchmeir expounded:

Sorry, searching posts isn't what I'm interested in, actually.

The newsreader shows all the newsgroups in in its list - thousands of
them. When setting up the reader, I want to see only the ones about
gardens, for example. That's the "subset" of the newsgroup list.

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

So, how's that done with Agent or Free Agent?

That's under Tools/Newsgroup Directory. There's a field where you
type in the word 'garden' and every newsgroup with that in the name
will come up.

Ok, thanks.

I dislike Thunderbird for news because I am so used to the Agent
interface - I like to 'keep' messages right in the group, not have to
copy them into another folder,

????

Er, do you mean you save messages? I rarely do.

O'wise, I don't understand your comment, hence don't understand how
Agent is an advantage.

so everything stays in one place. I
have retention set for 30 days, everything older gets purged except
for the ones I lock as kept. For mail, I use T-bird.

For mail, I use PMMail, it has the inestimable advantage that it will
not decode any binaries, and even refuses to display most html. Just
plain text, thank you ma'am. That keeps a lot of unwanted stuff out of
my machine.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:46:56 GMT, SHIVER ME TIMBERS
wrote:


In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

Now let me get this straight.

You open the program and see a list of all the tens of thousands of
newsgroups.

You type gardens into the search engine and only see the one or two
groups about gardening.

You click on your favourite gardening group and voila you are here and
ready to start reading the news.

If that's the case..... I don't know what to say.

On my Macintosh.... with my arcaic newsreader.... I can tell it to show
the full group list and search for a particular group just like you.

BUT.... I then tell the program to set up a brand new untitled group
window and I then drag the title of the group I'm interested in to the
new group window and save that window as whatever I wish to call it.

Gardens for example.

If I open up my new gardens group window it opens up and there it is
containing only the garden groups I put in there.

Your doing something radically wrong if your starting your newsgroup day
off with the full newsgroup list that on my system is about ninety
thousand long.
Just go to tools and open newsgroup directory. There is a window down
a bit where you type in the word you want. Fer instance body. If that
word is in a group carried by your server it will offer up all groups
with that word in it.

Wolf Kirchmeir expounded:

Er, do you mean you save messages? I rarely do.

O'wise, I don't understand your comment, hence don't understand how
Agent is an advantage.

Yes, I do save them, because I want them for archival purposes,
especially for picture posts and threads that interest me. I've got
threads saved from rec.gardens where I've been a participant for over
12 years. The advantage is that the posts and threads are all still
there in my rec.gardens folder where I can find things easily if I
want to.
--
Ann, gardening in Zone 6a
South of Boston, Massachusetts
e-mail address is not checked
******************************

SHIVER ME TIMBERS wrote:

In T'Bird, I enter 'garden' in the search field above the newsgroups
list, and only the newsgroups with 'garden' in their names will show.

Now let me get this straight.

You open the program and see a list of all the tens of thousands of
newsgroups.

Not on T'bird - there I see only the NGs I've subscribed to (seven at
the moment.) But on Free Agent, I saw the complete list. Why? i hadn't
subscribed to any of them through free Agent yet, so why did it show me
all the NGS? Dumb design IMO. Especially since there a no obvious way to
prune that list so as to find just the groups you might want to
subscribe to.

You type gardens into the search engine and only see the one or two
groups about gardening.

You click on your favourite gardening group and voila you are here and
ready to start reading the news.

Yeah, if it's in the Subscribed tree.

If that's the case..... I don't know what to say.

Not surprised.

On my Macintosh.... with my arcaic newsreader.... I can tell it to show
the full group list and search for a particular group just like you.

BUT.... I then tell the program to set up a brand new untitled group
window and I then drag the title of the group I'm interested in to the
new group window and save that window as whatever I wish to call it.

T'bird automatically adds the susbcribed group to the existing list. I
click on NG in that list, and see All headers, or just the Unread ones,
or whatever. I see no point in setting up a separate folder for a group.

Gardens for example.

If I open up my new gardens group window it opens up and there it is
containing only the garden groups I put in there.

I don't subscribe to enough groups to make that useful. Right now, I'm
subscribed to seven groups.

Your doing something radically wrong if your starting your newsgroup day
off with the full newsgroup list that on my system is about ninety
thousand long.

Ok, I'll expand:

I started Free Agent, and it showed me all the NGs, which I found odd,
since I hadn't subscribed to any of them. I hunted around, and found no
obvious way of getting a subset of that list showing only those with
'garden' (for example) in their names. Ann says it's under Tools, which
is OK, but then why show all NG list on start-up?

In T'bird, you see only the NGs you've subscribed to until you go to
Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions, at which point you see a window with all
the NGs, and a scroll bar, plus a filter box so you can select only
those NGs you want to see, and maybe subscribe to. Free Agent's design
philosophy is different, I guess.

I hope I've explained it clearly enough.