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What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds
of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark |
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I usually get about 3-4 lbs per hill (yukon gold) I didn't buy mine by
the pound but by the piece from Gurney's. 30 sets may weight 1/2 lb What location are you in. Kenebecs are still green and growing here in PA. Did you wait until the plants died back to nothing, or are you digging them as new potatoes ? Mark & Shauna wrote: What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark |
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Brian,
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not including the plant/location data. We are in central WV and yes, our plants have died back to nothing. Planted around the end of March. This is the first year for the ground we are growing in (the whole garden). It is ridge top land and has been very wet here in WV this year. The ground was far from what we left in our old garden, oh how we miss that ground. Ten years of building it up. Most of the people in the hollow have lost their potatoes to rot from all the water but ours were still growing strong when all of theirs were yellow and going to poop. In the floods we will be fine, in the drought we will be dieing heheh. The toils of living up high. It sounds like you are getting 6-8 lbs per pound and in reading this post back to my wife I think I may have over judged the yeild and perhaps we only have about 25-30 lbs. Its a very crude measure now as I have not dug all the potatoes yet. My current guess is perhaps 100-150 lbs for the 50 lbs planted. Which I guess isnt bad as 2 of the 5 rows I left unhilled as an experiment. I was hoping to someday get to 50lbs yeilding 400 lbs of potatoes but not sure if that is possible with organic practice. Mark Brian wrote: I usually get about 3-4 lbs per hill (yukon gold) I didn't buy mine by the pound but by the piece from Gurney's. 30 sets may weight 1/2 lb What location are you in. Kenebecs are still green and growing here in PA. Did you wait until the plants died back to nothing, or are you digging them as new potatoes ? Mark & Shauna wrote: What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark |
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 01:40:17 GMT, Mark & Shauna wrote:
What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I can't really say. I plant whatever is rooting in the kitchen cabinet, it grows, and then just before the hard winter freeze dig em all up ![]() plants to grow, especially when you've dug the garden up right (the potato area is dug very deeply down 18-20" full of compost). I would say for every pound maybe I get back 5, but it's only a very small area (~200 sq feet). The leftovers get thrown back into the garden in early spring. Dan |
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Hmmm it's good to know what kind of results another West Virginer is
getting, I'm going to be trying potatoes next year, probubly Kennebecs. My soil here in the Panhandle is very hard clay, with about 5 or 6 inches of topsoil. It was also my first year with this soil. This area is in a valley so much of the soil is ancient run-off from the mountains. It's extremely minerally rich but difficult to work. We have a very rich silt soil available down the hill from my house along a stream. I use this for my flower plantings in raised beds. I spent considerable time working the soil for the garden, breaking and removing the sod, using peat moss and composted manure. My roommate is from central WV, Fayette county originally. He says the soil down there is much better quality then what we have here. From what your saying though I'm not so sure its any better. This mountain soil, however old the mountains, is still pretty damn hard to work with until you get it built up. I didn't have compost available for my soil this year, I should have some next year. I'm thinking perhaps I could build a raised bed for the potatoes to allow for deeper growth...do you think this would help you next year? I'm not dealing with nearly the quantity of potatoes you will be however, my garden is rather small compared to what people around here consider a garden, only 293 sqr. feet. Next year I'll be doubling that size, and creating a seperate area for the potatoes. The info I have says potatoes require a high acid soil for best results and to avoid several rot diseases. Ph around 6.5-5.5 is considered best... "Mark & Shauna" wrote in message ... Brian, Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not including the plant/location data. We are in central WV and yes, our plants have died back to nothing. Planted around the end of March. This is the first year for the ground we are growing in (the whole garden). It is ridge top land and has been very wet here in WV this year. The ground was far from what we left in our old garden, oh how we miss that ground. Ten years of building it up. Most of the people in the hollow have lost their potatoes to rot from all the water but ours were still growing strong when all of theirs were yellow and going to poop. In the floods we will be fine, in the drought we will be dieing heheh. The toils of living up high. It sounds like you are getting 6-8 lbs per pound and in reading this post back to my wife I think I may have over judged the yeild and perhaps we only have about 25-30 lbs. Its a very crude measure now as I have not dug all the potatoes yet. My current guess is perhaps 100-150 lbs for the 50 lbs planted. Which I guess isnt bad as 2 of the 5 rows I left unhilled as an experiment. I was hoping to someday get to 50lbs yeilding 400 lbs of potatoes but not sure if that is possible with organic practice. Mark Brian wrote: I usually get about 3-4 lbs per hill (yukon gold) I didn't buy mine by the pound but by the piece from Gurney's. 30 sets may weight 1/2 lb What location are you in. Kenebecs are still green and growing here in PA. Did you wait until the plants died back to nothing, or are you digging them as new potatoes ? Mark & Shauna wrote: What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark |
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What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds
of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are I sell yeild of potatoes for less than what you would buy in the local store. |
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Mike,
Your soild sounds a lot like ours. Very shallow top soil, clay, then shale. Like I said our garden is on a ridge which seems to make the soil even shallower and more depleated. We too had no compost this year as it was our first year on this ground. We have been building compost all we can but we will surely not have enough to make a difference in the whole garden next year. We are just going to trudge along with what compost we have, cover crops, and manure in the fall each year. We have access to obscene amounts of manure as cattle is big here so thats our aim in the fall. The raised bed thing would be a good idea but not on our scale. In my opinion you just want to make the process as labor friendly as you can. Put a lot of work in when you plant to make the subsequent hilling easier. We dug a deep furrow hilling all the material from the furrow on the sides. Planted, then as the plants grow its fairly easy to just move down the isle knocking the piles back into the furrows as the plant grows. I think next year we may try hilling with hay or mulch as well. I am a little concerned about weed seeds as we will be using hay from our own farm but perhaps if we keep it thick it will foil the weeds. We are in Roane/Calhoun county and will keep you all posted as to our progress. Mark Mike Stevenson wrote: Hmmm it's good to know what kind of results another West Virginer is getting, I'm going to be trying potatoes next year, probubly Kennebecs. My soil here in the Panhandle is very hard clay, with about 5 or 6 inches of topsoil. It was also my first year with this soil. This area is in a valley so much of the soil is ancient run-off from the mountains. It's extremely minerally rich but difficult to work. We have a very rich silt soil available down the hill from my house along a stream. I use this for my flower plantings in raised beds. I spent considerable time working the soil for the garden, breaking and removing the sod, using peat moss and composted manure. My roommate is from central WV, Fayette county originally. He says the soil down there is much better quality then what we have here. From what your saying though I'm not so sure its any better. This mountain soil, however old the mountains, is still pretty damn hard to work with until you get it built up. I didn't have compost available for my soil this year, I should have some next year. I'm thinking perhaps I could build a raised bed for the potatoes to allow for deeper growth...do you think this would help you next year? I'm not dealing with nearly the quantity of potatoes you will be however, my garden is rather small compared to what people around here consider a garden, only 293 sqr. feet. Next year I'll be doubling that size, and creating a seperate area for the potatoes. The info I have says potatoes require a high acid soil for best results and to avoid several rot diseases. Ph around 6.5-5.5 is considered best... "Mark & Shauna" wrote in message ... Brian, Thanks for the reply. Sorry for not including the plant/location data. We are in central WV and yes, our plants have died back to nothing. Planted around the end of March. This is the first year for the ground we are growing in (the whole garden). It is ridge top land and has been very wet here in WV this year. The ground was far from what we left in our old garden, oh how we miss that ground. Ten years of building it up. Most of the people in the hollow have lost their potatoes to rot from all the water but ours were still growing strong when all of theirs were yellow and going to poop. In the floods we will be fine, in the drought we will be dieing heheh. The toils of living up high. It sounds like you are getting 6-8 lbs per pound and in reading this post back to my wife I think I may have over judged the yeild and perhaps we only have about 25-30 lbs. Its a very crude measure now as I have not dug all the potatoes yet. My current guess is perhaps 100-150 lbs for the 50 lbs planted. Which I guess isnt bad as 2 of the 5 rows I left unhilled as an experiment. I was hoping to someday get to 50lbs yeilding 400 lbs of potatoes but not sure if that is possible with organic practice. Mark Brian wrote: I usually get about 3-4 lbs per hill (yukon gold) I didn't buy mine by the pound but by the piece from Gurney's. 30 sets may weight 1/2 lb What location are you in. Kenebecs are still green and growing here in PA. Did you wait until the plants died back to nothing, or are you digging them as new potatoes ? Mark & Shauna wrote: What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark |
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What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds
of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am guessing this is the best of the best conditions? We havent weighed our yeild yet but we last night just for fun we dug about 1/6th of the 50 lbs we planeted and have gotten two 5 gallon pails worth. Perhaps 30-40 pounds? I didnt get them hilled as well as I should have this year so thats hurting us but I was surprised to have even the biggest plants only yeilding perhaps 5 medium sized potato's each. If there are 6 they are small and if there are only three they are large baking size. Oddly I left two rows unhilled and they are yeilding only slightly less than the rows I hilled a couple times. We planted Kenebec's and next year, even though we are no till as much as possible, I am going to furrow and hill with the farm tractor rather than by hand. Over 50 lbs (which we will do next year) is just too much for us by hand. Even if I have to run the subsoiler every other year it will be the only way for us to grow a lot of potatoes. Mark 14-1 is the target central Virginia always aimed for. 10-1 is not bad, because summer heat and foliar diseases always make us less able to sustain yeilds like our more Northern neighbors, |
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Depends on your soil fertility and weather. I have a poor yield because I
have poor soil and not a lot of good compost. If I till in a good one foot high stand of fall rye before planting, my yield goes way up. Since my soil is quite poor, the plants succumb to potato blight as the tubers form thus decreasing my yield. Potatoes like an acidic soil. Homespun potatoes are the best especially potatoes with the silky skins. Farmer John |
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Mark & Shauna writes:
What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am My Mum is a keen potato grower, and routinely gets 3 to 5 large spuds per plant; but when particularly lucky, it can be 6 or 7. Some plants will have only 2, plus a handful of babies. Rating your yield as lbs/lb is not the best comparison, as the prudent gardener plants *small* seed potatoes then digs up *large* potatoes. The size of the seed potatoes is not indicative of what they will yield: the seed growers have a commercial trick which turns out lots of small seed potatoes, it's what growers want--to plant a few frugal oz. and dig up lots of lbs. -- John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup) |
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Mark & Shauna writes:
What are those in the group getting for a yeild on potatoes? In pounds of harvest compared to pounds planted. I have heard that if you are really kicking some butt you can get 10 pounds per pound planted, I am My Mum is a keen potato grower, and routinely gets 3 to 5 large spuds per plant; but when particularly lucky, it can be 6 or 7. Some plants will have only 2, plus a handful of babies. Rating your yield as lbs/lb is not the best comparison, as the prudent gardener plants *small* seed potatoes then digs up *large* potatoes. The size of the seed potatoes is not indicative of what they will yield: the seed growers have a commercial trick which turns out lots of small seed potatoes, it's what growers want--to plant a few frugal oz. and dig up lots of lbs. -- John Savage (news address invalid; keep news replies in newsgroup) |
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