"Bill Oliver" wrote in message
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In article FztCa.45945$hd6.9249@fed1read05,
wrote:
Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why
does
he get away with it?
Roz


Probably to age it. You do know, don't you, that the steaks you buy
in the supermarket have been hanging for around 21 days? While
commercial meat houses hang beef in cool temperatures for long
periods, the tradition for game is to hang it at ambient temperature
for shorter periods. The "gamey" taste of meat harvested by hunting
rather than packaged at the supermarket is in large part due to
insufficient ageing.

billo

They might have been in the past but beef is not aged by commercial
processors anymore. It costs too much money in shrinkage. The beef hangs
in the "hot box" for all of 48 hours max before it's cut, packaged and
shipped. After it's package it doesn't hang around all that long before
it's shipped either. There's a lot of it that goes "direct ship" too.
There's a lot of it that is cut and packaged and on a truck in less than 48
hours from the time it walks in the door.

My DH works in a beef packing plant.

Kathy

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:44:44 GMT, "Vox Humana" wrote:


We have a similar restriction. Again, out of 150 homes, about three people
insist on violating the rules. I can understand if someone has to have a
trailer for a few days because they are in the middle of a project, but the
people who violate the rules just have one for the hell of it. I found out
this week that our township prohibits the parking of boats, trailers, or
commercial vehicles on residential property unless they are inside a
building or are fully screened and meet setback requirement (ie, they have
to be out of site, one a paved area, and a good distance from the street or
any neighboring property.) You might check with your zoning board and see
what the rules are in your area. You might only have to call the police,
saving you a lot of time and some money to pursue it in court.


We have the same ordinance as you. Trailers, boats, cars on blocks, etc. are
not tolerated unless inside the fence and not seen from the street or anyone
else's backyard. It's a civil matter. I've asked him for three years to move
it. I'm giving him till August. I think I've been fair. It has been recorded
for three years that I've wanted it out of sight, as well as have signatures of
27 families who also want it out.

Court fees are virtually nothing, and for sure nothing if he is in violation,
which he clearly is. On top of city ordinance, he signed deed restrictions when
he bought in this development, regardless how small it is. It's all half acre
or more zoned in here. 31 houses.

Thing is, I probably would tolerate it if he wasn't such a scumbag about that
cat. What a disgusting thing to do to another human being and even if you hate
the human, to do that to a cat is demonic. He'll get his.

Victoria

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:33:56 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


Just to play devil's advocate, why is this any different than the "weed
police" everyone was ranting about yesterday?

I just can't see calling the cops to hassle someone over a deed
restriction. Even if the guy is an asshole. No, *especially* if he's an
asshole. It will just escalate, and he won't know when to stop.

Someone should have called the cops when he threatened folks with a gun.
But that's a criminal matter, not civil.

Best regards,
Bob


The police were called and it was their word against his and they didn't have a
witness. Some laws in Texas are pretty archaic.

As for escalating the situation...I don't mean to sound low classed, but there
are at least ten guys in here who would just love the opportunity to squash this
idiot like a bug. His junk heap and trailer and b-ball hoop that nobody ever
plays with are going to go. We have a lot of money invested in our homes and
his house is the first you see when you enter the gates.

I'd personally love to see him escalate. My husband is the most gentle of all
creatures and even HE said he'd squash that idiot like a bug. We called the
police to have it recorded so when we take him to court the court will clearly
see how tolerant of his heap we all were.

Victoria

animaux wrote:

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 21:33:56 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:



Just to play devil's advocate, why is this any different than the "weed
police" everyone was ranting about yesterday?

I just can't see calling the cops to hassle someone over a deed
restriction. Even if the guy is an asshole. No, *especially* if he's an
asshole. It will just escalate, and he won't know when to stop.

Someone should have called the cops when he threatened folks with a gun.
But that's a criminal matter, not civil.

Best regards,
Bob



The police were called and it was their word against his and they didn't have a
witness. Some laws in Texas are pretty archaic.

As for escalating the situation...I don't mean to sound low classed, but there
are at least ten guys in here who would just love the opportunity to squash this
idiot like a bug. His junk heap and trailer and b-ball hoop that nobody ever
plays with are going to go. We have a lot of money invested in our homes and
his house is the first you see when you enter the gates.

I'd personally love to see him escalate. My husband is the most gentle of all
creatures and even HE said he'd squash that idiot like a bug. We called the
police to have it recorded so when we take him to court the court will clearly
see how tolerant of his heap we all were.

Victoria


But don't you see the irony of the message thread you posted this in? I
guess not.

Best regards,
Bob

In article FztCa.45945$hd6.9249@fed1read05,
" wrote:

Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why does
he get away with it?
Roz



Depending on where the deer was killed, it has to be "field dressed"
which means that it has to be gutted and bled as soon as possible. It
works a lot better with gravity on your side. I don't know if he can
hunt on his property, but that's one explanation.

Secondly, you have to skin and clean a deer before butchering. The best
way to make sure everything is ready is to hang the carcass. It makes
access easier. Since some people are squeamish about the whole venison
concept (it sure makes clear how meat "gets to the table") many people
hang the carcass inside the garage or work in the basement. This guy may
not feel like hauling a carcass around any more than is necessary. This
is all perfectly legal, since deer hunting is legal.

Now, this neighbor sounds horrible, but there were a couple of things
mentioned that are perfectly legal and, in some cultures, perfectly
acceptable.

Threatening people with a gun makes it obvious that there's something
fundamentally wrong with this person. But if he wants to eat venison, a
deer must be killed.

"Terry M" wrote in news:0ZtCa.826624
$Zo.170849@sccrnsc03:

wrote:
hwat is an epee?
roz

An epee is a dueling sword.


Terry M
"Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a
good
person is a little like expecting the bull not to charge
because
you are a vegetarian."




It is also a way to relieve yourself
John

animaux writes:

Not only did he threaten people, his 11 year old daughter said
something which put red flags up on the whole block. She asked
another little girl if she ever had sex, or wanted to have sex.
These are 11 year old girls.

You realize, of course, that some schools start sex education in
kindergarten nowadays. That may not be the case in your area, but
it's drastically jumping to conclusions to think an 11-year-old got
such curiosity at home, no matter how weird her family is otherwise.
They're getting bombarded with it from all sides.

Come to think of it, when I was 11 years old, a school friend used to
pass around his mom's trashy romance novels -- the kind with fully
descriptive sex, not the tamer ones that stop at the bedroom door.
Luckily for their morals, most of the kids probably couldn't read yet.


--
Aaron

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:01:13 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


But don't you see the irony of the message thread you posted this in? I
guess not.

Best regards,
Bob

I see the irony. Do you think I'm somehow less intelligent because I posted a
gripe and because sometimes it's necessary to be garden police? Hey, I could
care less if people have their lawn growing tall. That's not my point.
Fortunately, everyone who lives in my development take very good care of their
property. We have one neighbor we strongly dislike.

There is a big difference because Victoria bought into this suburb KNOWING about the
rules. Nothing hidden, everything was in black and white on paper. Signing on the
dotted line meant agreeing to the rules set out. Most of the rules concern what
goes on it the front and public areas around the house. Ingrid

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:01:13 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:
But don't you see the irony of the message thread you posted this in? I
guess not.


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John wrote:
wrote:
hwat is an epee?
roz



An epee is a dueling sword.

Terry M
"Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good
person is a little like expecting the bull not to charge because
you are a vegetarian."



It is also a way to relieve yourself
John



I believe that would be *apee* or maybe *ipee*. Possibly *upee* or *wepee*.

Terry M
"Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good
person is a little like expecting the bull not to charge because
you are a vegetarian."

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:22:14 -0400, montana wrote:
(...)


Now, this neighbor sounds horrible, but there were a couple of things
mentioned that are perfectly legal and, in some cultures, perfectly
acceptable.

Threatening people with a gun makes it obvious that there's something
fundamentally wrong with this person. But if he wants to eat venison, a
deer must be killed.

Thing is, he doesn't do the butchering. He hangs it there so his little man
complex can be soothed, then he hauls it off to the processor (who just as
easily hang it to age in the proper way).

Not only did he threaten people, his 11 year old daughter said something which
put red flags up on the whole block. She asked another little girl if she ever
had sex, or wanted to have sex. These are 11 year old girls. There were other
sexual innuendos. When the parents of the girl who heard this told the parents
my neighbors) about it, my neighbors threatened to sue.

They are a strange bunch. Not as nice as The Munsters, and much more vile than
The Bundy Family.

That's "You couldn't care less".

To say "You could care less" means you still care but you don't.

Oh, who cares?



animaux wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:01:13 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


But don't you see the irony of the message thread you posted this in? I
guess not.

Best regards,
Bob

I see the irony. Do you think I'm somehow less intelligent because I
posted a
gripe and because sometimes it's necessary to be garden police? Hey, I
could
care less if people have their lawn growing tall. That's not my point.
Fortunately, everyone who lives in my development take very good care of
their
property. We have one neighbor we strongly dislike.

It is awful that you have the "Manson family" living next door to you but if
the redneck keeps it up, he just may wind up in jail where he belongs. Its
not a case for the garden police. The man is sociopath just asking for a
showdown with the legal authorities. Just be sure to hit the floor when the
Feds show up at his house and the bullets start flying.

Of course, the implication is that he is a pediphile molesting his own
daughter besides all the other bizarre things the sick ******* does. The man
needs professional help.

Neighbors shouldn't threaten to sue, they should contact the proper
authorities so they can arrest the *******.

When he goes to jail, he can get all the sex he deserves. On the receiving
end, that is.


animaux wrote in message
...
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:22:14 -0400, montana
wrote:
(...)


Now, this neighbor sounds horrible, but there were a couple of things
mentioned that are perfectly legal and, in some cultures, perfectly
acceptable.

Threatening people with a gun makes it obvious that there's something
fundamentally wrong with this person. But if he wants to eat venison, a
deer must be killed.

Thing is, he doesn't do the butchering. He hangs it there so his little
man
complex can be soothed, then he hauls it off to the processor (who just as
easily hang it to age in the proper way).

Not only did he threaten people, his 11 year old daughter said something
which
put red flags up on the whole block. She asked another little girl if she
ever
had sex, or wanted to have sex. These are 11 year old girls. There were
other
sexual innuendos. When the parents of the girl who heard this told the
parents
my neighbors) about it, my neighbors threatened to sue.

They are a strange bunch. Not as nice as The Munsters, and much more vile
than
The Bundy Family.

Point taken. I couldn't care less. Better?

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:38:04 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12yo" wrote:

That's "You couldn't care less".

To say "You could care less" means you still care but you don't.

Oh, who cares?



animaux wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:01:13 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


But don't you see the irony of the message thread you posted this in? I
guess not.

Best regards,
Bob

I see the irony. Do you think I'm somehow less intelligent because I
posted a
gripe and because sometimes it's necessary to be garden police? Hey, I
could
care less if people have their lawn growing tall. That's not my point.
Fortunately, everyone who lives in my development take very good care of
their
property. We have one neighbor we strongly dislike.

On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:45:38 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12yo" wrote:

It is awful that you have the "Manson family" living next door to you but if
the redneck keeps it up, he just may wind up in jail where he belongs. Its
not a case for the garden police. The man is sociopath just asking for a
showdown with the legal authorities. Just be sure to hit the floor when the
Feds show up at his house and the bullets start flying.

Thanks for the sympathy! He is a disgusting little man.

Of course, the implication is that he is a pediphile molesting his own
daughter besides all the other bizarre things the sick ******* does. The man
needs professional help.

I'm working on gathering any information. It's a pretty tight rope to walk when
dealing with children. I don't want to scare any of them, or put any of them in
dangers way, including his daughter. I'm afraid if I find out for sure he is
molesting her I will go balistic and bash his head in, myself.

Neighbors shouldn't threaten to sue, they should contact the proper
authorities so they can arrest the *******.

He threatened to sue. He sues everyone. Nobody talks to the igit.

When he goes to jail, he can get all the sex he deserves. On the receiving
end, that is.

One can only hope.