Â* I'll be planting some of the white greasy beans songbird sent me (as
well as a bush variety), and am wondering about trellis requirements . I
have a few feet of 6x6" welded concrete re-wire , will that work OK ? I
read that these can get over 7 feet tall , and that's why I ask . I've
been using tomato cages made from this stuff for a few years now , works
great for them . Field peas like it too , but tend to crowd out the
'maters . I guess I could cut the re-wire in 7 foot lengths and stand
them up on end ... one consideration is blocking sun from other stuff -
I haven't made any decisions yet for exact planting layout except
tomatoes , strawberries , and salad stuff .

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Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

On 3/29/2018 2:21 PM, wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:

Â* I'll be planting some of the white greasy beans songbird sent me (as
well as a bush variety), and am wondering about trellis requirements . I
have a few feet of 6x6" welded concrete re-wire , will that work OK ? I
read that these can get over 7 feet tall , and that's why I ask . I've
been using tomato cages made from this stuff for a few years now , works
great for them . Field peas like it too , but tend to crowd out the
'maters . I guess I could cut the re-wire in 7 foot lengths and stand
them up on end ... one consideration is blocking sun from other stuff -
I haven't made any decisions yet for exact planting layout except
tomatoes , strawberries , and salad stuff .
I grow English peas and some field peas in raised beds on just such
"trellises" made from 6" reinforcing fabric. My preference, though, is
wire field fencing that's 3x6 mesh along its lower part and 6" square
mesh along the balance of its height. Mine are permanent appliances that
zig-zag across the beds in a "accordion" pattern. They're easily
handled by one person, peg in place easily (tent pegs), collapse pretty
well for storage, and support the wintertime covering's framework. The
challenge of course, is remembering to install the fence wire trellises
"upside-down" so as to be able to reach through for weeding and
cultivation;-)
In my garden today, I have some strawberries finishing up, English
peas just about done,edible turnips tops and roots, mustard greens going
to seed, spinach and carrots producing well, late mustard greens,
turnips, carrots and spinach, along with onions, late English peas (that
I hope can take the sun), and Provider bush snap beans growing. Soon to
be planting (not necessarily in order): More English peas, more bush
beans, field peas (crowder peas), okra, eggplant, peppers, and (maybe)
tomatoes. I'll be starting the last three in paper cups to make
transplants.

Â* Our usual last-frost date is April 15th - and I've planted on the
15th and gotten bit . I'm shooting for the 20th . Picked up some
watermelon , zuke , cuke , and yellow squash seedlings yesterday at the
co-op . Went for potting soil for my Mother's Day plant venture* and
they looked good so ...

Â* * I now have a total of 45 house plants growing with the intent to
sell at the Farmer's Market on the Friday/Saturday before MD . The co-op
is supplying hanging baskets for a good price , I might break even on
this !

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Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

Terry Coombs wrote:

Â* I'll be planting some of the white greasy beans songbird sent me (as
well as a bush variety), and am wondering about trellis requirements .

those came to me via Mr. Peek who used to post here but
i've not heard from him for quite some time. i'm glad they
are making it back further south so they can do better with
the longer season.


I
have a few feet of 6x6" welded concrete re-wire , will that work OK ? I
read that these can get over 7 feet tall , and that's why I ask .

those can easily top a 10ft fence (ours is 8ft and they reach
the top of that by the end of July or sooner). just put up what
you want to do and let them sprawl around after they hit the top.
i don't want anything higher than i can easily reach. just for
the reason that i don't want to mess with standing on top of
other things to do simple garden tasks. i don't need to tempt
fate that much.


I've
been using tomato cages made from this stuff for a few years now , works
great for them . Field peas like it too , but tend to crowd out the
'maters . I guess I could cut the re-wire in 7 foot lengths and stand
them up on end ... one consideration is blocking sun from other stuff -
I haven't made any decisions yet for exact planting layout except
tomatoes , strawberries , and salad stuff .

i put my climbing beans only on the north fence so that i don't
have to worry about them blocking the light to other plants.
the amount of space needed to grow a lot of the climbers as
compared to the semi-runners and bush type beans is why i largely
do not aim for pole beans for most of the gardens. i just don't
have that much field space or fence space for them.

interwoven cement reinforcing is likely just fine to use.
might last a bit longer than welded mesh that isn't interwoven
at all.


songbird

On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 11:26:04 AM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
Â* I'll be planting some of the white greasy beans songbird sent me (as
well as a bush variety), and am wondering about trellis requirements . I
have a few feet of 6x6" welded concrete re-wire , will that work OK ? I
read that these can get over 7 feet tall , and that's why I ask . I've
been using tomato cages made from this stuff for a few years now , works
great for them . Field peas like it too , but tend to crowd out the
'maters . I guess I could cut the re-wire in 7 foot lengths and stand
them up on end ... one consideration is blocking sun from other stuff -
I haven't made any decisions yet for exact planting layout except
tomatoes , strawberries , and salad stuff .

--
Snag
Ain't no dollar sign on
peace of mind - Zac Brown

Hello bird and others, I'm finally back. Had some surgery that didn't produce the expected results, left me confined to a wheel chair. All the gardening I do anymore is in my mind.

You are correct about the greasy beans, they climb like crazy. I used to use a woven wire trellis set to 6'. The beans would climb to the top and either fall down and reclimb or become a woven tangle between rows (the shade is nice in hot weather). I've had to crawl between rows to pick.

peek0703... wrote:
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 11:26:04 AM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
Â* I'll be planting some of the white greasy beans songbird sent me (as
well as a bush variety), and am wondering about trellis requirements . I
have a few feet of 6x6" welded concrete re-wire , will that work OK ? I
read that these can get over 7 feet tall , and that's why I ask . I've
been using tomato cages made from this stuff for a few years now , works
great for them . Field peas like it too , but tend to crowd out the
'maters . I guess I could cut the re-wire in 7 foot lengths and stand
them up on end ... one consideration is blocking sun from other stuff -
I haven't made any decisions yet for exact planting layout except
tomatoes , strawberries , and salad stuff .


Hello bird and others, I'm finally back. Had some surgery that didn't produce the expected results, left me confined to a wheel chair. All the gardening I do anymore is in my mind.

awww drats! sorry that didn't go well. but am glad to hear
from you here (and via e-mail if you want to write anytime).


You are correct about the greasy beans, they climb like crazy. I used to use a woven wire trellis set to 6'. The beans would climb to the top and either fall down and reclimb or become a woven tangle between rows (the shade is nice in hot weather). I've had to crawl between rows to pick.

last season i had a very promising looking crop on the
fence:

http://www.anthive.com/img/beans/thm..._Beans_thm.jpg

but it actually didn't do well as we had a pretty long
drought and i must not have gotten enough water to them.
the pods looked full, but the beans inside were not
fully developed and i didn't know it until harvest time
when shelling how it went. i was hoping for a total
bean crop of between 50-100lbs and had about 20 lbs.

my general bean page for the website is:

http://www.anthive.com/project/beans/

trying to be patient waiting for the next growing season
to start off. projects planned. still freezing here over-
night. as usual will not be planting much of anything until
May towards the middle and end and into early June.


songbird

In article ,
songbird wrote:

trying to be patient waiting for the next growing season
to start off. projects planned. still freezing here over-
night. as usual will not be planting much of anything until
May towards the middle and end and into early June.

Sure, it's weeks to last frost, but peas and carrots should go in now
(I'm east, but similar latitude) as they don't really mind the cold, and
the dang peas seem to thrive on it. My usual problem is getting them in
too late (an organized person, which I'm often not as work and gardening
clash in time crunches, would have a bed set and read to go for those
crops before snow fell.)

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Ecnerwal wrote:
....
Sure, it's weeks to last frost, but peas and carrots should go in now
(I'm east, but similar latitude) as they don't really mind the cold, and
the dang peas seem to thrive on it. My usual problem is getting them in
too late (an organized person, which I'm often not as work and gardening
clash in time crunches, would have a bed set and read to go for those
crops before snow fell.)

i'm not planting anything when the temperatures are still
well below freezing at night (last night, next week two days
below 20 in the forecast, etc.).

once the overnight lows stay more in the 40s then it may
be possible.


songbird

In article ,
songbird wrote:

i'm not planting anything when the temperatures are still
well below freezing at night (last night, next week two days
below 20 in the forecast, etc.).

once the overnight lows stay more in the 40s then it may
be possible.


songbird

Peas, carrots, and spinach are in. We'll have some cold nights yet, but
the usual problem with those crops is too late, not too early. Can
replant if needed. Garlic went in last fall, but it was old garlic from
the season before, as the fall before last went to bleep in a
handbasket. We'll see if it does anything.

Oh, how I hate creeping buttercup. And fighting the garden onto the next
and hopefully final grid/fence plan...

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Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

Ecnerwal wrote:
....
Peas, carrots, and spinach are in. We'll have some cold nights yet, but
the usual problem with those crops is too late, not too early. Can
replant if needed. Garlic went in last fall, but it was old garlic from
the season before, as the fall before last went to bleep in a
handbasket. We'll see if it does anything.

i've yet to manage to kill off all of the garlic.
years ago i was planting several hundred cloves, now
i'm down to 20-30 and that is plenty. i'm also
digging it out of one large garden so i will have
plenty of green garlic this spring when i get back
to that project.

looks like we got snowed on last night. yesterday
we had all the weather in one day, sunshine, rain,
hail, wind, thunder, lightning, snow. just another
early spring day.


Oh, how I hate creeping buttercup. And fighting the garden onto the next
and hopefully final grid/fence plan...

ha, there's always at least one weed to fight off.
in our case there are plenty. i just pick one garden
here or there a season to renovate. if i could get
rid of the remaining lawn/grassy areas that would
save me many hours of weeding a season that could go
into growing vegetables or dry beans or more flowers.

i think i finally talked Mom into smothering a few
gardens she's had where it is nothing but white
flowering yarrow. she can't weed it any more and she
has been mowing it down a few times a season, but that
bothers her a lot too. i wanted to turn them into
vegetable gardens, but before we can do that the yarrow
has to come out. smother it for a few years and it
will be ready for onions or something else.

good fences come in handy. good luck with the
projects...


songbird