“If this a 500-year-old hardwood bonsai that you and your family have worked on, you probably don’t want nature to help you too much and change the course of centuries. I’d protect that.�

For a good article on protecting trees from damage: http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=367&sid=202898

Nina, whose cicadas are really creepy guys who just sit and stare.

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Thanks for the article Nina.
Very informative.
Guess I won't worry about my landscape trees.

I have a simple question ....... I have a number of small "critters" that
appear every once in awhile and they don't seem to like a light coating of
very dilute Neem Oil.
When I discover them walking about my maples, azaleas, etc I give the trees
a quick squirt and they disappear for the season.
Will a light coating of Neem Oil have any effect on the cicada's ??
How about Carl's famous soap solution ?

Still worried about my bonsai !!

Thanks
Mark Hill

PS ..... Here about 10 miles south of Harrisburg PA I haven't seen a single
cicada yet !!



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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:36 AM
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"If this a 500-year-old hardwood bonsai that you and your family have worked
on, you probably don't want nature to help you too much and change the
course of centuries. I'd protect that."

For a good article on protecting trees from damage:
http://www.wtop.com/index.php?nid=367&sid=202898

Nina, whose cicadas are really creepy guys who just sit and stare.

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Nina Shishkoff


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I can just imagine Nina's trees siting on a shelf in
their net baggies. Did you use colored ribbon to tie
them? Glad they are safe.

Kitsune Miko
--- Nina Shishkoff wrote:
Will a light coating of Neem Oil have any effect
on the cicada's ??
How about Carl's famous soap solution ?

Still worried about my bonsai !!

A personal observation about cicadas: they are
zombies. They have no survival instincts. So don't
expect them to leave a tree just because you sprayed
it. Remember, they don't really eat, and when they
go to lay their eggs, the wrong "end" is involved.
So protectant sprays aren't going to work.

I bought 20 yards of netting for 0.50/yd. You can't
beat it.

Nina.
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I can just imagine Nina's trees siting on a shelf in
their net baggies. Did you use colored ribbon to tie
them? Glad they are safe.


My trees are lined up on the ground, and I plan to drop the netting over the whole row of them (except the pines, which, according to that article, aren't harmed by cicadas). I haven't done anything yet, because "my" cicadas are just sitting. And staring

In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:09:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
My trees are lined up on the ground, and I plan to drop the netting over the
whole row of them (except the pines, which, according to that article, aren't
harmed by cicadas). I haven't done anything yet, because "my" cicadas are
just sitting. And staring.
Nina:

I am covering the deciduous trees with deer net, which should be enough to
stop the Cicadas should they decide to select my trees for the branch splitting
and egg laying ceremony.

My last resort will be an application of Sevin (should a swarm of the Cicadas
threaten any of hard-earned ramifications in my deciduous trees).

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
hometown.aol.com/iasnob

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Mike

Doesn't Deer netting have 3/4 inch holes?

The article suggest 3/8-1/2" holes max.

Do you think deer netting will work? Just wondering because I have not found
any screening with holes smaller then 3/4"yet.

Not seen or heard any big bugs, yet here in Western Mass.

Doug Taylor



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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: [IBC] protecting trees from cicada damage


In a message dated 5/20/2004 11:09:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
My trees are lined up on the ground, and I plan to drop the netting over
the
whole row of them (except the pines, which, according to that article,
aren't
harmed by cicadas). I haven't done anything yet, because "my" cicadas are
just sitting. And staring.
Nina:

I am covering the deciduous trees with deer net, which should be enough to
stop the Cicadas should they decide to select my trees for the branch
splitting
and egg laying ceremony.

My last resort will be an application of Sevin (should a swarm of the
Cicadas
threaten any of hard-earned ramifications in my deciduous trees).

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
hometown.aol.com/iasnob


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In a message dated 5/21/2004 10:27:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

Mike

Doesn't Deer netting have 3/4 inch holes?

The article suggest 3/8-1/2" holes max.

Do you think deer netting will work? Just wondering because
I have not found
any screening with holes smaller then 3/4"yet.

Not seen or heard any big bugs, yet here in Western Mass.

Doug Taylor

Doug:

I found deer netting with 1/2" holes. Now, is this going to work. I do not know. Unfortunately, I cannot move my large Elms, Hornbeam, Gumi, Ume, etc. into the house for weeks.

Again, I am attempting to avoid the use of insecticides. I have only been in the art for 15 years, so I cannot base my current remedies on the prior Cicada invasion. );-)

I suppose that applying a second layer of deer netting might do the job if the first layering allows for too much access. . . I can think of better things to be doing that building an impenetrable Cicada barrier. );-)

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
hometown.aol.com/iasnob

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Will a light coating of Neem Oil have any effect on the cicada's ??
How about Carl's famous soap solution ?

Still worried about my bonsai !!

A personal observation about cicadas: they are zombies. They have no survival instincts. So don't expect them to leave a tree just because you sprayed it. Remember, they don't really eat, and when they go to lay their eggs, the wrong "end" is involved.
So protectant sprays aren't going to work.

I bought 20 yards of netting for 0.50/yd. You can't beat it.

Nina.
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