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Dmitry:
I am sure that asking this question to this forum will bring out the I Hate Serissa members, who will tell you that you should transplant it again and again and again (until it is dead)! ;-) Seriously, I wouldn't repot it again, just leave it alone. Serissa are tough, even though they have a bad reputation. Treat the tree as you would any other newly repotted tree. Just be watchful and do not over water. Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 http://bmee.net/rosner http://www.jamesbaird.com/cgi-bin/Ja...d=00000068 48 Dmitry Akselrod wrote: Hello everyone, I just transplanted my Serissa Foetida into a new pot and new soil. Here is where I made the mistake. I was once recomended soil from www.bonsaiofbrooklyn.com. I somehow, with my incredible ADD powers, I bought soil from www.bonsaiboy.com (Bonsai Boy of New York). I don't know anything about this soil. I haven't been able to find anything about their soil in the archives either. Has anyone used their (Bonsai Boy of New York) tropical soil? Does anyone know if my Foetida is safe in it for a year? Or should I buy the soil from bonsai of brooklyn and transplant again? The tree is in its pot for the second day. So far I have not seen any signs of trouble, but it is too early to tell. My concern is that the soil does not seem to be as well-draining, as promised. It does drain much better than regular potting soil, but that's not saying much. Thanx for your advice in advance, Dmitry ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I just transplanted my Serissa Foetida into a new pot and new
soil. Here is where I made the mistake. I was once recomended soil from www.bonsaiofbrooklyn.com. I somehow, with my incredible ADD powers, I bought soil from www.bonsaiboy.com (Bonsai Boy of New York). I don't know anything about this soil. I haven't been able to find anything about their soil in the archives either. Has anyone used their (Bonsai Boy of New York) tropical soil? Does anyone know if my Foetida is safe in it for a year? Or should I buy the soil from bonsai of brooklyn and transplant again? I've never seen either of these soils, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Despite all the discussion of various bonsai soil recipes, bonsai soil is bonsai soil. Both of these companies have been in biz for a while, and while I've heard complaints about one of them, none of the complaints dealt with the dirt they sold. Serissa is a temperamental plant, but it IS tough. It'll do fine in whatever it's planted in for a year or so. By then, you will (I hope) be doing as the rest of us do and mixing your own soil rather than paying good money to someone else for -- dirt. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Thank you Carl! Yeah, I have read many posts regarding Serissa's temper
here. I suppose many people have grown to hate it. While it doesn't have the glamour of a five needle pine, it works for me. It hasn't given me too much trouble (*knocking on wood*), except for some occasional yellow leafs. But I think that some acid application can remedy that. I will wait a month or so to let the roots settle in however. Thanx again, Dmitry "Carl L Rosner" wrote in message ... Dmitry: I am sure that asking this question to this forum will bring out the I Hate Serissa members, who will tell you that you should transplant it again and again and again (until it is dead)! ;-) Seriously, I wouldn't repot it again, just leave it alone. Serissa are tough, even though they have a bad reputation. Treat the tree as you would any other newly repotted tree. Just be watchful and do not over water. Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 http://bmee.net/rosner http://www.jamesbaird.com/cgi-bin/Ja...page&artistid= 0000006848 Dmitry Akselrod wrote: Hello everyone, I just transplanted my Serissa Foetida into a new pot and new soil. Here is where I made the mistake. I was once recomended soil from www.bonsaiofbrooklyn.com. I somehow, with my incredible ADD powers, I bought soil from www.bonsaiboy.com (Bonsai Boy of New York). I don't know anything about this soil. I haven't been able to find anything about their soil in the archives either. Has anyone used their (Bonsai Boy of New York) tropical soil? Does anyone know if my Foetida is safe in it for a year? Or should I buy the soil from bonsai of brooklyn and transplant again? The tree is in its pot for the second day. So far I have not seen any signs of trouble, but it is too early to tell. My concern is that the soil does not seem to be as well-draining, as promised. It does drain much better than regular potting soil, but that's not saying much. Thanx for your advice in advance, Dmitry ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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![]() "Jim Lewis" wrote in message news:001b01c30920$0b378fe0$26102cc7@pavilion... I've never seen either of these soils, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Despite all the discussion of various bonsai soil recipes, bonsai soil is bonsai soil. Both of these companies have been in biz for a while, and while I've heard complaints about one of them, none of the complaints dealt with the dirt they sold. Thank you for calming my worries Carl. I have done this a few times now, but it doesn't seem to be any less scary, repotting a tree that is. Serissa is a temperamental plant, but it IS tough. It'll do fine in whatever it's planted in for a year or so. By then, you will (I hope) be doing as the rest of us do and mixing your own soil rather than paying good money to someone else for -- dirt. I would love to mix my own soil, but I think that my wife would have my head for that. She isn't very happy with dirt all over the carpet ![]() live in an apartment in the heart of Philly where it's hard to find good soil without a car. I am due for a trip to the Rosade Nursery however, perhaps I can pick up a few bags of each component, earning a few days on the couch in the process. Thanx again, Dmitry Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry David Thoreau - Walden ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Dmitry Akselrod wrote:
I would love to mix my own soil, but I think that my wife would have my head for that. She isn't very happy with dirt all over the carpet ![]() live in an apartment in the heart of Philly where it's hard to find good soil without a car. Dmitry: You have to explain to your wife that Bonsai soil is not dirt... it is soil! Of course, when you drop it on the floor it does become dirt! Just be careful and put down a plastic sheeting when you mix your soil! :-D Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 http://bmee.net/rosner http://www.jamesbaird.com/cgi-bin/Ja...d=00000068 48 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Dmitry,
I personally don't know anything about either of the two soils. But I do have a thing for Serissa as everyone on the list knows. However with my success with Serissa I have found that here in South Carolina they like a very well draining soil. I tend to keep mine a little dry in the soil and make sure that the tree above ground has high humidity. Which is the trick. Here we have the high air humidity especially in the summer. In the winter I always mist the leaves a keep the air more moist since I bring them indoors. My only recommendation would be to make sure you have a well-draining soil. Sorry I don't know anything about those two soil. Good to here you have a Serissa!!! Much Luck Derek Zieminski Summerville, SC Zone 8A ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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![]() "Dmitry Akselrod" wrote in message Thank you for calming my worries Carl. I have done this a few times now, but it doesn't seem to be any less scary, repotting a tree that is. Serissa is a temperamental plant, but it IS tough. It'll do fine in whatever it's planted in for a year or so. By then, you will (I hope) be doing as the rest of us do and mixing your own soil rather than paying good money to someone else for -- dirt. I would love to mix my own soil, but I think that my wife would have my head for that. She isn't very happy with dirt all over the carpet ![]() live in an apartment in the heart of Philly where it's hard to find good soil without a car. I am due for a trip to the Rosade Nursery however, perhaps I can pick up a few bags of each component, earning a few days on the couch in the process. Thanx again, Dmitry If you time your visit to Rosade's for May 3 or 4, you can participate in their spring (free) open house. It's usually a lot of fun with demos etc. Details will be up on their web site soon. http://www.rosadebonsai.com/ They sell several kinds of good pre-mixed soil, so you don't have to mess up your living room. Bart |
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I just don't understand Serissa's myself. I have/had two of them. I bought
them both at the same time, repotted them both at the same time without much root pruning using the same mix soil. I put them both side by side at the same location. I gave them the same treatment as far as water, sun, etc. etc. and one of them died for no apparant reason. The other is flourishing. Who knows??? --I crucified my hate and held the world within my hands-- Neal Ross-Marysville CA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Could it have been deseased? Maybe you gave more emotional attention to one
then the other? ![]() "Neal Ross" wrote in message news:001901c30990$d58e01a0$da4cabcd@computer... I just don't understand Serissa's myself. I have/had two of them. I bought them both at the same time, repotted them both at the same time without much root pruning using the same mix soil. I put them both side by side at the same location. I gave them the same treatment as far as water, sun, etc. etc. and one of them died for no apparant reason. The other is flourishing. Who knows??? --I crucified my hate and held the world within my hands-- Neal Ross-Marysville CA ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Neal:
I think that could apply to any pair of trees. You do not know the history of the trees before you purchased them. Or one could have been attacked by spider mites, but not the other one. I am sure there could be a hundred explanations for that occurrence. Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 http://bmee.net/rosner http://www.jamesbaird.com/cgi-bin/Ja...d=00000068 48 Neal Ross wrote: I just don't understand Serissa's myself. I have/had two of them. I bought them both at the same time, repotted them both at the same time without much root pruning using the same mix soil. I put them both side by side at the same location. I gave them the same treatment as far as water, sun, etc. etc. and one of them died for no apparant reason. The other is flourishing. Who knows??? ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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