I'm sorry to hear that Art had a stone stolen. That's always a bummer when
you realize that someone has ripped you off at a convention.
Over the last few years I find this a common thing ( at least at my
tables). I think that a lot has to do with how "easily stealable" your items
are, as many of mine are. I "lose" something more and more often at shows
and it is USUALLY a carving bit/tool of some type. If it can be easily wiped
off the table and into a bag it seems it's fair game. A stone however is a
little different! But, I imagine at a stone show it wasn't rare to see
someone walking around with a stone!
I've had people say to me " I can't believe a bonsai person would steal",
uh, well, believe it! The idea of losing $20-60 , OR MORE after all your
costs is bad enough ( for years I told myself that THEY must have needed the
money more than my family) but, it's a real pain when you can't leave your
booth to go see demos or eat or anything because you know something will
stroll away!
One thing to look forward to.....someday you'll catch someone!!
Regards,
Dale Cochoy
Wild Things Bonsai Studio

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From: "Reiner Goebel"
Subject: [IBC] Stolen suiseki


The following is posted for Art Skolnik.

Reiner Goebel
Toronto, Canada
http://www.rgbonsai.com

The accompanying photo (please see

http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ag...nsaiclub_suise
kigallery&key=1045017245&first=1045017245&last=102 9192535)
is a Mohave Desert stone. I purchased it from
Frank English, in California 20 years ago. I decided not to exhibit it
in the Masterpiece Display, opting instead for a larger stone, and kept
this one at one of my tables in the sales area. A week or two later at
home I had a heart-stopping realization... the stone was missing

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In article 01f701c2d2bd$4e746ce0$0430fea9@dalespc,
(dalecochoy) wrote:

The idea of losing $20-60 , OR MORE after all your
costs is bad enough
And if someone stole an actual tree, think how devastating that would be.
The worst loss would be not the monetary value of the tree, but its
sentimental value, and all of the hours put into training and looking
after it.

[To Arthur]

I suppose one consolation if someone stole your stone would be to think
that the thief obviously appreciates the value of it, even if they just
want to sell it.

I hope you find the rock somehow.

Liam

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To:
Subject: [IBC] Stolen suiseki

I'm not familiar with any "missing" finished/trained , expensive bonsai
from conventions.

I'm pretty sure Chase has had at least one, and possibly several, really
nice trees (azalea as I recall) walk away from the Philly Flower Show.

David J. Bockman, Fairfax, VA (USDA Hardiness Zone 7)
Bunabayashi Bonsai On The World Wide Web: http://www.bunabayashi.com
email:

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David J. Bockman"
Subject: [IBC] Stolen suiseki


-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf
Of dalecochoy
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:00 AM
To:
Subject: [IBC] Stolen suiseki

I'm not familiar with any "missing" finished/trained , expensive bonsai
from conventions.

I'm pretty sure Chase has had at least one, and possibly several, really
nice trees (azalea as I recall) walk away from the Philly Flower Show.

David J. Bockman,

Yep, you're right Dave. I remember hearing that now. I think that was 5-7ish
years ago?
Of course I've heard of small and large thefts of trees from home/business
sites. I remember Brussels' large loss about 10 years ago.
But, small "five-finger-discounts" are common at conventions/symposiums.
Plus, I wonder how often vendors have stuff stolen and never notice if they
have lots of smaller items ( like me). regarding Art's loss..it was a few
days before he noticed! And, that item wasn't small!
Dale

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It is such a shame that people would steal something like that. What is the
world coming to? I recently had 4 trees stolen from my home while I was away
for the day so I know how the loss feels.

--I crucified my hate and
held the world within my hands--
Neal Ross-Marysville CA


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Dale - I was sent this from my brother in Vegas not a week ago. . . stolen
bonsai. . .

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At 11:00 AM 2/14/2003 -0500, dalecochoy wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Liam"
Subject: [IBC] Stolen suiseki
(dalecochoy) wrote:

The idea of losing $20-60 , OR MORE after all your
costs is bad enough

Liam said:
And if someone stole an actual tree, think how devastating that would be.
The worst loss would be not the monetary value of the tree, but its
sentimental value, and all of the hours put into training and looking
after it.

Liam,
I'm not familiar with any "missing" finished/trained , expensive bonsai
from conventions. Stock, yes definitely and myself carving equipment. The
most expensive thing I've lost is a DeWalt die grinder kit in Dallas last
April. The kit retailed for $165. Over the years, many smaller ( but
expensive) carving items. Last year I had a Samurai carver stolen at a show.
It is much easier to walk out of a venfding area with a bag with a small
item than it is with a fully developed tree. Finally, Money is
money...whether it took a long time to make it or a short time!


[To Arthur]

I suppose one consolation if someone stole your stone would be to think
that the thief obviously appreciates the value of it, even if they just
want to sell it.
I hope you find the rock somehow.
Liam

Liam,
I don't think that's much of a consolation. If you are mugged on a city
street and your watch and wifes jewelry are stolen I'd not care if the
thief appreciated it or not!
Regards,
Dale Cochoy

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