i have a cotoneaster that still has its berries from
last year. i just root pruned it recently it seems
to be coming back strong with new buds. anyhow,
i'm curious if i should remove the berries to allow
for this year's flowers and new berries? or does it have
no bearing on the newer growth?

Won't matter. The plant has already put all the energy it's
going to put into the flowers and the berries. Usually, the
berries are a bit disreputable looking by this time, though, and
should come off just for that.

Jim Lewis - Tallahassee, FL

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luke_jack61188 wrote:

Please feel free to email us at if you
require gardening advice.
berries should be plucked and leave some for
pleasure until december and taken away all of them
after that date a s will suck too muche energy
and plant need to rest

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You should remove all old berries by the end of the year (winter/dormant) as they may overtax the tree's reserves. The demand it makes on the resources of the tree may be too much and affect negatively the production of flowers and new berries the next year.

Gene DC wrote:
You should remove all old berries by the end of the year
(winter/dormant) as they may overtax the tree's reserves. The demand it
makes on the resources of the tree may be too much and affect negatively
the production of flowers and new berries the next year.

Jim Lewis Wrote:


i'm curious if i should remove the berries to allow
for this year's flowers and new berries? or does it have
no bearing on the newer growth?


Well, it wasn't me who asked that question, but . . . :-)

Anyway, it is the MAKING of berries that takes up the
energy. After they're on the tree, they don't do anything
but grow old (and probably get eaten by birds).

If you are worried about use of energy (and on a healthy
tree, I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about that)
you should remove the flowers when they fade, so the tree
doesn't MAKE any berries.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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On Sep 5, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Jim Lewis wrote:
snip

Well, it wasn't me who asked that question, but . . . :-)

Anyway, it is the MAKING of berries that takes up the energy. After
they're on the tree, they don't do anything but grow old (and probably
get eaten by birds).

If you are worried about use of energy (and on a healthy tree, I
wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about that) you should remove
the flowers when they fade, so the tree doesn't MAKE any berries.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature encourages
no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

Different tree, same idea--my oldest honeysuckle had berries this year
on just the upper half, and the tree put its energy into making berries
rather than growing the apex more. Next year I'm going to remove the
flowers when they fade, as Jim suggests, and hope that the apex will
grow more.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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And, if you really want to conserve the tree's energy, don't even
let it flower.

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Gene DC wrote:
You should remove all old berries by the end of the year
(winter/dormant) as they may overtax the tree's reserves. The
demand it makes on the resources of the tree may be too much and
affect negatively the production of flowers and new berries the
next year.

I'm curious if i should remove the berries to allow for this
year's flowers and new berries? Or does it have no bearing on
the newer growth?

Jim Lewis Wrote:
Well, it wasn't me who asked that question, but . . . :-)

Anyway, it is the MAKING of berries that takes up the
energy. After they're on the tree, they don't do anything
but grow old (and probably get eaten by birds).

If you are worried about use of energy (and on a healthy
tree, I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about that)
you should remove the flowers when they fade, so the tree
doesn't MAKE any berries.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Nature
encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Ok I'll bite, How would you go about keeping a tree from flowering? By
trimming buds before before they get a chance open?

-Ethan

On 9/5/05, Alan Walker wrote:...don't even
let it flower.

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Craig Cowing wrote:


Different tree, same idea--my oldest honeysuckle had berries this year
on just the upper half, and the tree put its energy into making berries
rather than growing the apex more. Next year I'm going to remove the
flowers when they fade, as Jim suggests, and hope that the apex will
grow more.
Hi
all flowers and berries /fruits carrying trees
should have flowers thinned out first
than the left ones that grow into fruits should
be plucked while growing leaving the best ones
placed on tree for the show off ..

and positively all taken away in winther
on Cidonia Chinensis the apples can a be taken
away in kept and preeserved in a dry place and
be hanged again on the tree when without leaf for
a nice effect during exibitions ( is allowed by
the jury)
Tiziano

Exactly!

Alan Walker
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From: Ethan Smith

Ok I'll bite, How would you go about keeping a tree from
flowering? By
trimming buds before before they get a chance open?
-Ethan

On 9/5/05, Alan Walker wrote:

....don't even let it flower.
Alan Walker
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Ethan Smith wrote:
Ok I'll bite, How would you go about keeping a tree from flowering? By
trimming buds before before they get a chance open?


Yup. But since one of the reasons you might grow cotonester
is for its flowers, you'd only do this if you were going to
do some other kind of serious work on the tree that year.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - When we
see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to
use it with love and respect - Aldo Leopold - A Sand County
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