Don't be discouraged, Ophelia! Please keep going. Unfortunately, one of
the problems with this medium is that you can't see the person you're
talking to

This is one of the main problems with the Net in general and newsgroups
in particular. I was involved in the 1990's with the development of
videoconferencing and the transmission of extra-mural distance learning
courses. Often acute antagonism developed between students and
tutors - even if they could see each other via the video network. This
was cured quite simply by moving the tutors around the centres so
that they could meet the students personally. The cure was permanent!

Phil
Northern Highlands of Scotland

In article ,
Malcolm wrote:

Actually, I think that it is older than ITMA, but its widespread
popularity dates from ITMA. That is certainly true for some of
the other phrases, such as "I don't mind if I do" and "Can I do you
now, Sir?"

I managed to get one change into the OED where they had fallen
into the trap of assigning a phrase to the author who popularised
it and not the originator. "To damn with faint praise" is actually
Wycherley, and Pope picked it up. But I suspect that the vast
majority of attributions are to the populariser and not the actual
originator, based on what I have seen happen in the past half
century.

I'm sure you're right, and, while it might matter to the OED - and well
done on the correction, that's a nice one - the rest of us are happy to
attribute the popularisers!

Thanks. In general, I agree that it makes no difference except to
historians, but it does sometimes matter when the populariser
attempts to copyright or trademark it :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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This came from a friend who runs a Transport business. Hope it will be of
some use!

December 2013

The first month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to see a
very cold and snowy start to winter. This period is also likely to
experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across
the country. The northern half of the country is likely to experience a
run of well-below average temperatures for the vast majority of the whole
month and multiple major snow events, which will also include some
potentially dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in
parts of north-east England. Parts of southern England, Wales, and the
Midlands are also likely to experience a number of major snow events, that
will consist of some crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout
December, especially in parts of southern England and Wales. It is highly
likely that there will be major disruption to the public transport network
across much of the country at times and school closures throughout the
early part of the December period too.

December Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for most parts of the
country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET).
Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures during the
evenings at times, and even more so throughout the Christmas period and
into the early part of 2014. It is quite plausible that temperatures may
surpass -20C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures
also struggling to get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but
especially more so towards the start and end of the this forecasting
period.

December Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some
heavy falls of snow across many parts of the country, but especially more
so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the below-average
temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the ground for some
lengthy periods of time in December. The risk of snowfall will remain with
much of the country throughout the whole month, but especially more so
throughout the period of the 23rd to the 31st December (Especially in
northern, eastern and southern parts). A full and more detailed snow risk
forecast will be issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year
(normally £10)

January 2014

The second month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to be
exceptionally cold and very snowy. This period is also likely to
experience a number of multiple and major widespread snow events across
the country, and a scenario similar to December 2010 or worse is
plausible. The vast majority of the whole country is likely to experience
a run of well-below average temperatures for the whole of the month and
multiple major snow events, which will also include some potentially
dangerous blizzard conditions at times, in particular, in parts of
southern England. Parts of northern England, eastern England, Wales,
western England, the Midlands, and Northern Ireland are also likely to
experience a number of major snow events, that will consist of some
crippling falls of snow for these parts throughout January. It is highly
likely that there will be major disruption on a prolific scale to the
public transport network across much of the country at times and school
closures throughout much of the January period too.

January Temperatures - Way below the seasonal average for much of the
country and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET).
Temperatures are also likely to exceed double negative figures quite
consistently during the evenings, especially in parts of Scotland and the
north. There may even be the possibility of temperature records being
broken in places, especially in parts of Scotland and Ireland, towards the
start of this forecasting period. It is quite plausible that temperatures
may surpass -28C in parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures
also struggling to get above freezing across the country during the
daytime too. There is also a good probability for the development of ice
floes, which will be visible from land in various parts of the country
too.

January Major Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some
very heavy falls of snow across most parts of the country, but especially
more so in the southern half of the country. Coupled with the
below-average temperatures, this is likely to lead to lying snow on the
ground for the vast majority of January. Snow drifts of several feet are
also a distinct possibility for this part of the forecasting period. The
risk of snowfall will remain with large parts of the country throughout
the whole month, but especially more so throughout the period of the 1st
to the 15th January. A full and more detailed snow risk forecast will be
issued to purchasers of this forecast later in the year (normally £10)

February 2014

The final month of the meteorological 2013/14 winter is likely to continue
with the cold and snowy theme. This period is also likely to experience a
number of multiple and major widespread snow events across the country.
Many parts of the country are likely to experience a run of below average
temperatures throughout the month and multiple major snow events,
especially in parts of northern and southern England. It is likely that
there will be disruption to the public transport network across these
parts at times and school closures throughout the February period too.
However, a number of brief periods of moderation can't be ruled for this
part of the forecasting period (normal winter conditions), especially in
the latter part of this forecasting period.

February Temperatures - Below the seasonal average for much of the country
and in terms of the mean Central England Temperature (CET), especially to
the north of the country. Temperatures may also exceed double negative
figures during the evenings at times, especially in parts of Scotland and
the north. It is quite plausible that temperatures may surpass -18C in
parts of the UK during the evenings, with temperatures also struggling to
get above freezing during the daytime at times too, but not consistently
due to a number of brief periods of moderation for this part of the
forecasting period.

February Snowfall - The major snow events are likely to lead to some
significant falls of snow across parts of the country, in particular, in
parts of northern and southern England. The risk of major snowfall is most
likely throughout the period of the 15th to the 25th February in these
parts.

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Ah well !! I think I'll go back to bed !

Bill

"Bill Grey" wrote in message
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Ah well !! I think I'll go back to bed !

Bill

If any of that comes to pass I will be doing the same) Either that or buy
an electric onesie

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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
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g beat you to it .. Phew) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a
friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on. We have a
hoot
when we visit

Min

Apparently, when the first pilot programme was being considered by the
toffs at the top of the beeb, one of them mis-read the title and asked
"what is this go on show?"

I Didn't Know That
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Malcolm" wrote in message
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We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The
only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved
it

Oops that would be the Goons!

I've just deleted the post I was writing to point that out :-)

g beat you to it .. Phew) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a
friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on.

slow playing 78s?

errrr just testing ...
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 09:35:26 -0000, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:15:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
wrote:



"Malcolm" wrote in message
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We didn't listen to much we were always quiet and reading books. The
only thing we listened to regularly was The Good Show! My Dad loved
it

Oops that would be the Goons!

I've just deleted the post I was writing to point that out :-)

g beat you to it .. Phew) Would you be a Goonie fan too? I have a
friend who has some old 75s records with the programmes on.

slow playing 78s?

errrr just testing ...

teasing?

Certainly not!

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