On 2013-10-04 10:07:26 +0000, Martin said:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 23:42:26 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2013-10-03 17:07:53 +0100, Nick Maclaren said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Well, it depends. You shouldn't expect all mod. cons if you rent a
cottage in rural West Cork, or the more rural parts of France. The
local people would just get round any problems, which is why they
expect you to. We fairly often had to wash things by hand and
string them up around the house. If you think that's bad, you would
really not like some of the places that I have lived in :-)

Expensive cottage in South Devon! LIVING somewhere is different in that
you usually have some idea of what you're going to before you move in.

Don't you bet on it :-) That didn't and doesn't apply to anyone
where they are posted by their employer.

If you rent a cottage from a brochure or the internet, as most people
do, and it's advertised as having certain facilities and machinery,
then it's fair to assume those things will be in working order. It's a
bit like renting a villa with a pool in Spain, only to arrive there and
discover the filter hasn't worked for 3 weeks and still isn't fixed.
Isn't that the usual situation? :-)

But I agree that things that are major features should be present
and at least work, up to the level a reasonable person would expect.
That will vary, however, and the standards in West Cork are (or, at
least, were) not the same as in the more developed parts of the UK.
I was actually quite surprised that it had an indoor toilet.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Tsk! Expectations again! I'm not going to quote actual prices but I
think their S Devon cottage cost not far shy of £1k per week, so to
find things not working that should be working, was particularly
irritating for them. It was almost more annoying that the owner
blithely told them to trot off to a launderette. Some rentals down
here are very expensive and in the 'luxury' area re price, so word goes
round very quickly if there's the slightest hint of 'rip off'!

I was amused by the prices and some of the information provided here
http://www.nationaltrustcottages.co.uk/search/

Look at Tresco some time! At least using a cottage there includes entry
to the Abbey Garden!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

1952?

That is when Full Board in my parent's hotel as something like £6.00 a week
if my memory serves me correct. And that was equal to a weeks wages!!

and are we better off now?

Mike




"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:08:57 +0100, sacha wrote:

On 2013-10-04 10:07:26 +0000, Martin said:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 23:42:26 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 2013-10-03 17:07:53 +0100, Nick Maclaren said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Well, it depends. You shouldn't expect all mod. cons if you rent a
cottage in rural West Cork, or the more rural parts of France. The
local people would just get round any problems, which is why they
expect you to. We fairly often had to wash things by hand and
string them up around the house. If you think that's bad, you would
really not like some of the places that I have lived in :-)

Expensive cottage in South Devon! LIVING somewhere is different in
that
you usually have some idea of what you're going to before you move in.

Don't you bet on it :-) That didn't and doesn't apply to anyone
where they are posted by their employer.

If you rent a cottage from a brochure or the internet, as most people
do, and it's advertised as having certain facilities and machinery,
then it's fair to assume those things will be in working order. It's a
bit like renting a villa with a pool in Spain, only to arrive there
and
discover the filter hasn't worked for 3 weeks and still isn't fixed.
Isn't that the usual situation? :-)

But I agree that things that are major features should be present
and at least work, up to the level a reasonable person would expect.
That will vary, however, and the standards in West Cork are (or, at
least, were) not the same as in the more developed parts of the UK.
I was actually quite surprised that it had an indoor toilet.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Tsk! Expectations again! I'm not going to quote actual prices but I
think their S Devon cottage cost not far shy of £1k per week, so to
find things not working that should be working, was particularly
irritating for them. It was almost more annoying that the owner
blithely told them to trot off to a launderette. Some rentals down
here are very expensive and in the 'luxury' area re price, so word goes
round very quickly if there's the slightest hint of 'rip off'!

I was amused by the prices and some of the information provided here
http://www.nationaltrustcottages.co.uk/search/

Look at Tresco some time! At least using a cottage there includes entry
to the Abbey Garden!

I looked at Tresco in 1952, in the days when day visits were still
free. :-)

http://www.nationaltrustcottages.co....mhouse-020013/
"Cottage Approach: Access is along a steep gated farm track which may
be impassable to any vehicle during severe winter weather. Access is
possible on foot.

Arrival during daylight hours is strongly recommended. All gates
through the farmland must be closed. Proceed slowly if sheep are being
gathered in the farmyard."

http://www.nationaltrustcottages.co....roctor-020017/
The idea of renting an apartment on the 3rd floor of Fountains Hall
gives me nightmares just thinking about it. Imagining being in that
vast old building with every piece of old beam and plank creaking at
night. Ideal for Halloween perhaps.
--

Martin visiting relatives in England.

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:21:37 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 03/10/2013 15:37, News wrote:
On 03/10/2013 14:04, Ophelia wrote:


David, why don't you just consider a mattress topper?


No good if the underlying mattress is 'compromised', imo. Also they
ahve a tendency to move about if you're not careful - particularly if
ythe underlying mattress is not good.

And a good memory flex mattress takes much of its stability from the
high density (non memory) foam that makes up the bulk of it.


The mattress is probably ecologically sound, It has a few springs
bursting forth, and being skewered is not my idea of fun and bending the
sharp end over doesn't do much to help.

That's why I'd never buy a aprung mattress.

Pam in Bristol

In article , nospamigg1937
@yahoo.co.uk says...

On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:21:37 +0100, David Hill
wrote:


The mattress is probably ecologically sound, It has a few springs
bursting forth, and being skewered is not my idea of fun and bending the
sharp end over doesn't do much to help.

That's why I'd never buy a aprung mattress.

I wouldn't have anything else; the more springs the better. A high
quality one does NOT burst forth or skewer the occupant.

Janet

On 04/10/2013 14:45, 'Mike' wrote:

1952?

That is when Full Board in my parent's hotel as something like £6.00 a
week if my memory serves me correct. And that was equal to a weeks wages!!

and are we better off now?

Mike


A working week was around 46 hours and 2 weeks holiday a year, the
average wage was around £9 a week. You worked Monday to Friday and half
day Saturday.
You could buy a nice3 house for under £2'000
Petrol was around 4/3d a gallon, ( I remember it going up to 5/-[25p] a
gallon in the early 60's and we thought that would be the end of motoring.)

Petrol went up from 2/6 a gallon to 5/- a gallon in November 1956 because of
the Suez crisis

In 1952 a Weekly bus ticket to go from the South East of the Isle of Wight,
Sandown, to the very North, Cowes was 9/9

I paid £1800 for a very nice 3 bed semi in 1960

In 1974 I sold half an acre, just within the Leicester City boundary, with
planning permission for 2 pairs of houses for £5,000!!!!

Mike

Were we better off then?




"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 14:45, 'Mike' wrote:

1952?

That is when Full Board in my parent's hotel as something like £6.00 a
week if my memory serves me correct. And that was equal to a weeks wages!!

and are we better off now?

Mike


A working week was around 46 hours and 2 weeks holiday a year, the
average wage was around £9 a week. You worked Monday to Friday and half
day Saturday.
You could buy a nice3 house for under £2'000
Petrol was around 4/3d a gallon, ( I remember it going up to 5/-[25p] a
gallon in the early 60's and we thought that would be the end of motoring.)

On 04/10/2013 18:46, 'Mike' wrote:
Petrol went up from 2/6 a gallon to 5/- a gallon in November 1956
because of the Suez crisis

My father was Captain of RFA ship loaded with ammunition and he and my
mother were in the last convoy through the Suez canal when that crisis
came to a head.

"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 13:31, Silvia Campion wrote:


"Victoria Conlan" wrote in message
...

David Hill wrote:
I'm wondering about a Memory foam mattress, but I don't know anyone who
has one.

Apologies if this has already been covered, but I can't be bothered with
the whole thread. Just wanted to voice my opinion

Apologies but I can't be bothered to read this post any further ...


If you have nothing constructive to add why bother posting?

Good question, so I'll do my best to answer it.

Firstly, post your thread in an appropriate forum.

Then preach about Netiquette.

Very interesting that David. Was it North to South? If so, so was my sister.
She was emigrating to Australia!!

I have done the Suez Canal a couple of times recently when cruising and the
troops are still out on the West bank!! With the barges they have afloat and
on the shore they could shut the canal in less than 5 minutes. Manned by
National Servicemen I expect and would love a bit of excitement. (Pity they
don't bring National Service back here)

Mike


"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 18:46, 'Mike' wrote:
Petrol went up from 2/6 a gallon to 5/- a gallon in November 1956
because of the Suez crisis

My father was Captain of RFA ship loaded with ammunition and he and my
mother were in the last convoy through the Suez canal when that crisis
came to a head.

On 04/10/2013 19:12, 'Mike' wrote:
Very interesting that David. Was it North to South? If so, so was my
sister. She was emigrating to Australia!!

I have done the Suez Canal a couple of times recently when cruising and
the troops are still out on the West bank!! With the barges they have
afloat and on the shore they could shut the canal in less than 5
minutes. Manned by National Servicemen I expect and would love a bit of
excitement. (Pity they don't bring National Service back here)

Mike


"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 18:46, 'Mike' wrote:
Petrol went up from 2/6 a gallon to 5/- a gallon in November 1956
because of the Suez crisis

My father was Captain of RFA ship loaded with ammunition and he and my
mother were in the last convoy through the Suez canal when that crisis
came to a head.

Heading out from the UK so fully loaded.
Always said if anything had happened they would just have been part of
the desert.

On 04/10/2013 19:10, Silvia Campion wrote:


"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 13:31, Silvia Campion wrote:


"Victoria Conlan" wrote in message
...

David Hill wrote:
I'm wondering about a Memory foam mattress, but I don't know anyone
who
has one.

Apologies if this has already been covered, but I can't be bothered
with
the whole thread. Just wanted to voice my opinion

Apologies but I can't be bothered to read this post any further ...


If you have nothing constructive to add why bother posting?

Good question, so I'll do my best to answer it.

Firstly, post your thread in an appropriate forum.

Then preach about Netiquette.


As a regular poster on this group that has so many gardeners who over
the years have mentioned their back problems, I feel that an OT posting
here was appropriate, and going by the many replies I got with good
advice I feel I was right.
David

On 2013-10-04 19:29:09 +0100, David Hill said:

On 04/10/2013 19:10, Silvia Campion wrote:


"David Hill" wrote in message ...

On 04/10/2013 13:31, Silvia Campion wrote:


"Victoria Conlan" wrote in message
...

David Hill wrote:
I'm wondering about a Memory foam mattress, but I don't know anyone
who
has one.

Apologies if this has already been covered, but I can't be bothered
with
the whole thread. Just wanted to voice my opinion

Apologies but I can't be bothered to read this post any further ...


If you have nothing constructive to add why bother posting?

Good question, so I'll do my best to answer it.

Firstly, post your thread in an appropriate forum.

Then preach about Netiquette.


As a regular poster on this group that has so many gardeners who over
the years have mentioned their back problems, I feel that an OT posting
here was appropriate, and going by the many replies I got with good
advice I feel I was right.
David

Silvia Cam being so well known to us all as a valuable contirbutor, of
course... Not.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk