Hi folks,

I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of
visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to
help.

We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf
tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with loads
of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.

I've placed a couple of photographs here
http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/

If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.

Neil

"neil" wrote in message
...
Hi folks,

I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of
visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to
help.

We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf
tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with
loads
of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.

I've placed a couple of photographs here
http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/

If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.

Neil
I would say its a Cotoneaster, I will let someone else tell you which
species!

--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

On 05/12/2012 17:18, Janet wrote:
In article , neilr200
@yahoo.co.uk says...

Hi folks,

I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of
visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to
help.

We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf
tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with loads
of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.

I've placed a couple of photographs here
http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/

If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.

Neil

It's one of the shrubby cotoneasters.....maybe C frigidus or C
cornubia. Or watereri.

Janet.

I'd say C. frigidus

On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:42:58 UTC, neil wrote:
Hi folks,



I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of

visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to

help.



We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf

tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with loads

of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.



I've placed a couple of photographs here

http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/



If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.



Neil

It's a Cotoneaster. They are notorious for hybridising amongst themselves so naming is a bit of a minefield. The braver posters have got about as near as you can without an expert taxonomist to examinine the tree.

Rod

"Rod" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:42:58 UTC, neil wrote:
Hi folks,



I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of

visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to

help.



We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf

tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with
loads

of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.



I've placed a couple of photographs here

http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/



If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.



Neil

It's a Cotoneaster. They are notorious for hybridising amongst themselves
so naming is a bit of a minefield. The braver posters have got about as
near as you can without an expert taxonomist to examinine the tree.

Rod

Excellent! Thanks to everybody who replied. Cotoneaster is good enough for
us. We were surprised to see what looks like a deciduous tree, having a
full cloak of green leaves and a very healthy covering of red berries in the
middle of December, so we just had to find out what it was.

Again many thanks,
Neil

"neil" wrote in message
...


"Rod" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:42:58 UTC, neil wrote:
Hi folks,



I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of

visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to

help.



We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad
leaf

tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with
loads

of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.



I've placed a couple of photographs here

http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/



If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.



Neil

It's a Cotoneaster. They are notorious for hybridising amongst themselves
so naming is a bit of a minefield. The braver posters have got about as
near as you can without an expert taxonomist to examinine the tree.

Rod

Excellent! Thanks to everybody who replied. Cotoneaster is good enough
for us. We were surprised to see what looks like a deciduous tree, having
a full cloak of green leaves and a very healthy covering of red berries in
the middle of December, so we just had to find out what it was.

Again many thanks,
Neil



Thank you for posting that and starting the thread. My wife, the gardener in
the house, has fallen in love with it and we are going to see if we can
squeeze one into our gardens somewhere suitable :-)

Mike

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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

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On 05/12/2012 16:42, neil wrote:
Hi folks,

I realise this isn't a botanical group but I also know from years of
visiting here, there must be somebody (possibly many) who will be able to
help.

We have a friend who has a tree in their garden - seems to be a broad leaf
tree and it is currently (December - North Scotland) fully green with loads
of red berries. I've been googling but still don't know what tree it is.

I've placed a couple of photographs here
http://www.pages-uk.com/tree/

If anybody could identify it we would be very grateful.

Neil



Cotoneaster cornubia? I believe it's semi-evergreen.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

But the wall covering ones would be different species wouldn't they? Some cotoneasters are shrubs, others are naturally small trees.

Some cotoneasters are horribly weedy, in the sense that they self-seed everywhere. Presumably the birds help to get the seeds so far spread.

But I have one that is both beautiful and does not appear to self-seed, or at least not very much, and I believe I did identify it (as well as one is able with cotoneasters without the microscope etc) as C frigidus, so that may be a good one to grow.

"echinosum" wrote in message
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"'Mike'[_4_ Wrote:
;974495"]"Thank you for posting that and starting the thread. My wife,
the gardener in
the house, has fallen in love with it and we are going to see if we can

squeeze one into our gardens somewhere suitable.

Some cotoneasters are horribly weedy, in the sense that they self-seed
everywhere. Presumably the birds help to get the seeds so far spread.

But I have one that is both beautiful and does not appear to self-seed,
or at least not very much, and I believe I did identify it (as well as
one is able with cotoneasters without the microscope etc) as C frigidus,
so that may be a good one to grow.

--
echinosum


Many thanks for that. The birds seem to spread our seed like mad. Holly and
Bay are like weeds in our gardens so maybe we can cultivate a few C frigidus
;-) . or should I say the bird will!!

Mike


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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

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On 06/12/2012 09:43, kay wrote:
'Sacha[_4_ Wrote:
;974506']
They're more often seen spreading against a wall, not with a distinct
trunk like that one. There's a very pretty little one grown as a
weeping standard on a grass verge opposite Dartington Cider Press. I
don't know which it is but that thing of growing with a trunk is very
attractive, imo.
-

But the wall covering ones would be different species wouldn't they?
Some cotoneasters are shrubs, others are naturally small trees.

same species, different varieties

In message , kay
writes

'Sacha[_4_ Wrote:
;974506']
They're more often seen spreading against a wall, not with a distinct
trunk like that one. There's a very pretty little one grown as a
weeping standard on a grass verge opposite Dartington Cider Press. I
don't know which it is but that thing of growing with a trunk is very
attractive, imo.
-

But the wall covering ones would be different species wouldn't they?
Some cotoneasters are shrubs, others are naturally small trees.

The wall covering ones are the Cotoneaster horizontalis group and the
Cotoneaster integrifolius group. Cotoneaster horizontalis is one of the
more invasive species.

Another particularly invasive species is Cotoneaster simonsii, which is
a large shrub. There are quite a few species similar to this, and my
ability to tell them apart doesn't extend that far.

The Cotoneaster bullatus group have a similar habit, but larger leaves,
and larger clusters of flowers.

There are prostrate/mound-forming species, such as Cotoneaster dammeri.

The biggest Cotoneasters are Cotoneaster frigidus and its hybrid with
Cotoneaster salicifolius (Cotoneaster x watereri). There seems to be
disagreement as to whether Cornubia is frigidus or x watereri.

All in all, over 80 species of Cotoneaster have been found growing wild
in Britain. Presumably the number cultivated is larger.


--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

"The Original Jake" wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 23:08:31 +0000, Sacha wrote:


There's a very pretty little one grown as a
weeping standard on a grass verge opposite Dartington Cider Press. I
don't know which it is but that thing of growing with a trunk is very
attractive, imo.

Search on "cotoneaster hybrida pendula" which is a nice little
"weeping standard". It's a variety that isn't listed in S9 of the WCA.
Eventual height and spread both 2 metres. It's hardy and, in the right
conditions, evergreen. I'm aiming to plant one in the spring to
replace a Kilmarnock willow that expired.

Cheers, Jake
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Urgling from the East End of Swansea Bay where sometimes
it's raining and sometimes it's not.

Kilmarnock Willow? We gave up on ours, two of them, ages ago. Too shallow
rooted and we had to stake them to stop them falling over. Stake them with
scaffold poles!!!! Daughter and Son in Law have the same problem with theirs
and no way would they stake with scaffold poles in a couple of acres of
landscaped gardens. Our postage stamp gardens are a different kettle of fish

Mike


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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

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