kathy wrote:

Does it surprise anyone that the males have to learn the hard
way?? ;-)
I watched my son's group of friends, when they were 13, spend a good
day
daring each other to run up and grab the electric fence

Mam, as a male, that is not learning, that is proving your manhood, a
BIG difference. Many societies past and present REQUIRED their young
males to prove they were men before being allowed to hunt or sit in
counsel. Present day American societies leave very few ways left so we
men grab for every opportunity.

I would have been shocked and saddened if your son and his 13 yo friends
did not do this.

Chip